Football Diontae Johnson to the Ravens - Page 14

WhawhaWhat · 10-29-2024, 12:08 PM

It’s a pick swap between the teams — Baltimore’s 5th for Carolina’s 6th rounder this year. https://t.co/3pcgBbQnE1
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) October 29, 2024

Shields68 · 10-30-2024, 09:13 AM

Wow so the Panthers let him go for a pick swap between a 5th or 6th. There is a good chance the compensatory pick will be higher then the 5th if they just let him walk in FA. What a well run organization.

DJ's left nut · 10-30-2024, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777

Ravens are loading up on deep threats because defenses are mostly playing cover 1 to stop the run against them. Good thing Lamar sucks at throwing it deep.

You'd think on pure large numbers alone he'd eventually hit a few of those against us.

But man, he missed like 4 or 5 really makeable deep throws against us in that playoff game.

"But it wasn't Lamar's fault they lost..."

chiefzilla1501 · 10-30-2024, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Pretty much this...

Stop the run and make Lamar beat you with the pass.

Until he does it, you gotta just play him this way.

I think this is a little outdated. Lamar’s beating defenses with the pass this year. The ravens defense can’t stop anyone and I don’t trust Lamar to consistently win shootouts even with diontae. It just takes one lukewarm pass performance. But that to me is way more the reason than saying Lamar’s been bad. Much as I hate to give the guy his due, he is a much better passer this year

tredadda · 10-30-2024, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think this is a little outdated. Lamar’s beating defenses with the pass this year. The ravens defense can’t stop anyone and I don’t trust Lamar to consistently win shootouts even with diontae. It just takes one lukewarm pass performance. But that to me is way more the reason than saying Lamar’s been bad. Much as I hate to give the guy his due, he is a much better passer this year

How many of Lamar’s good games this year came when Henry played poorly? A lot of his success comes from Henry being dominant. Not gonna say that he’s some sort of scrub, but that definitely helps.

Gary Cooper · 10-30-2024, 10:36 AM

Lamar has passing issues but he's got plenty of talent around him now. That offense should be feared, even if the defense isn't at last season's level.

**chiefforlife** · 10-30-2024, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Johnson is especially good at beating man coverage. Not too crazy to believe that the Ravens were at least partially thinking of the Chiefs’ defense in the playoffs when they made the move.

This is very likely!

I believe the addition of Uche was for guys like Lamar and Josh in the playoffs!!

If you dont have time for Dionte to get open deep, it doesnt matter.

Checkmate!

Warpaint69 · 10-30-2024, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Lamar has passing issues but he's got plenty of talent around him now. That offense should be feared, even if the defense isn't at last season's level.

Still have to slow their run game and put them in passing situations to beat them. Justice Hill out of the backfield in the pass game and Likely are bigger problems for our linebackers.

Gary Cooper · 10-30-2024, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpaint69

Still have to slow their run game and put them in passing situations to beat them. Justice Hill out of the backfield in the pass game and Likely are bigger problems for our linebackers.

Lots of weapons for sure.

Lamar
Henry/Hill
Andrews/Likely
Flowers/Johnson/Bateman

That's a significantly better group than the Chiefs defense faced in the AFCCG. We played them well this season until the 4th quarter where Baltimore had success. Even with some of Lamar's deficiencies, this kind of talent won't be easy to stop. Need the CBs to step up in Watson's absence.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-30-2024, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda

How many of Lamar’s good games this year came when Henry played poorly? A lot of his success comes from Henry being dominant. Not gonna say that he’s some sort of scrub, but that definitely helps.

Yeah for sure. I’m not worried about the ravens. I’m just commenting on old narratives that Lamar isn’t playing well right now as an actual passer. Even if Henry opens up the passing game, Lamar is hitting the throws he used to throw wildly inaccurate. He’s cleaned a lot of that off and kudos to him for putting the time in to get better.

We will still beat him though. But I don’t think it’s because he folds as a passer like he always has. I think it’s because he has a really bad defense and he’s not the type of qb who can consistently overcome a bad defense the way Mahomes has at points in his career

Gary Cooper · 10-30-2024, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yeah for sure. I’m not worried about the ravens. I’m just commenting on old narratives that Lamar isn’t playing well right now as an actual passer. Even if Henry opens up the passing game, Lamar is hitting the throws he used to throw wildly inaccurate. He’s cleaned a lot of that off and kudos to him for putting the time in to get better.

We will still beat him though. But I don’t think it’s because he folds as a passer like he always has. I think it’s because he has a really bad defense and he’s not the type of qb who can consistently overcome a bad defense the way Mahomes has at points in his career

Their defense has some good players though. They shouldn't be bad in the long run. Heck, I can't remember the Ravens not being at least average defensively over a long stretch.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-30-2024, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Their defense has some good players though. They shouldn't be bad in the long run. Heck, I can't remember the Ravens not being at least average defensively over a long stretch.

I think losing McDonald hurt them more than they’d like to admit

**chiefforlife** · 10-30-2024, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think losing McDonald hurt them more than they’d like to admit

I think that is the answer. That was a huge loss.

But they will figure it out, I would expect a much improved defense in the playoffs.

tredadda · 10-30-2024, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think losing McDonald hurt them more than they’d like to admit

It really was. Imagine this defense if it lost Spags.

dlphg9 · 10-30-2024, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano

That’s how I’ve always read the situation. The guy wouldn’t be a good fit. Veach has been intentional about bringing in veteran locker room guys to mentor the younger receivers. It helps that they’re skilled, wise, humble and actually produce too.

I'm with DJLN, you don't think Andy and the leaders in this locker room wouldn't be able to reel him in?

Megatron96 · 10-30-2024, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9

I'm with DJLN, you don't think Andy and the leaders in this locker room wouldn't be able to reel him in?

90-some percent of the time, sure. Always a few percent no one can.

10-29-2024, 12:08 PM
WhawhaWhat MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $-378884	Diontae Johnson to the Ravens It’s a pick swap between the teams — Baltimore’s 5th for Carolina’s 6th rounder this year. https://t.co/3pcgBbQnE1 — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) October 29, 2024
Posts: 18,320

10-30-2024, 09:13 AM	#196
Shields68 MVP Join Date: Jan 2017 Casino cash: $2130400	Wow so the Panthers let him go for a pick swap between a 5th or 6th. There is a good chance the compensatory pick will be higher then the 5th if they just let him walk in FA. What a well run organization.
Posts: 5,660

10-30-2024, 10:36 AM	#200
Gary Cooper MVP Join Date: Nov 2020 Casino cash: $430400	Lamar has passing issues but he's got plenty of talent around him now. That offense should be feared, even if the defense isn't at last season's level.
Posts: 7,902	1 0