Approval/Disapproval of The Trade.

[Rain Man]

If you don't know what The Trade is, just go away.

What do you think? This is a public poll, because we're going to come back in five years and revisit this day.

[keg in kc]

Tried to say this last night as the server died:

I have wanted the Chiefs to draft and develop a quarterback for nearly 20 years. I didn't think they ever would. Because no matter how much of a carousel Arrowhead became for coaches and gm's, nothing really ever changed with their approach. They just played it safe to appease the season ticket holders. Year after year after year.

Then last night happened.

I've heard people say it's the wrong year. I've heard people say it's the wrong guy. I don't give a shit about that.

They identified their top player. They made a bold move to acquire him. And that...well, that's all I've ever wanted. It really is that simple.

I'm not giving the Mahomes experiment three years or five years, the way I have with past picks. This trade will always be a positive to me. Because even if he busts - and he may... - it will still ultimately have been exactly the kind of move the Chiefs need to make if they want to win championships, made at the perfect time when they were able and in position to do it. Meaning they had the picks, they found the player, and they pulled the trigger.

Who knows when they'll have the ability to get into the top ten again. They struck when the iron was hot and I will never criticize them for that.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by el borracho

I'm pretty sure that future picks have less value in the current year. IIRC, the value of next year's 1st is roughly the value of this year's 2nd.

Yes, that's always been the logic. Following year's picks have been devalued down a round for as long as I can remember when used in value chart discussions.

[Sandy Vagina]

Sounds like you are already planning out the silver lining of loss (keg)... but it makes sense. I get it.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Sounds like you are already planning out the silver lining of loss (keg)... but it makes sense. I get it.

No silver lining. Whether I like Mahomes or not will depend on how he plays. But the trade itself I will always consider a good move. They're separate things in my mind.

If the kid doesn't develop, I'll treat him like every other qb not named 'Trent Green' for the last 18 years. But I won't ever fault them for taking their shot last night. That took guts.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

I don't give a shit what the draft value chart says. Have you ever seen a team move up 17 spots into the top 10 for less?

In 2008, the Jags moved from 26 to 8 for 2 3rds and a 4th. I think that was a special case, though, because that's what the Bears gave up to move from 3 to 2 last night.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

No silver lining. Whether I like Mahomes or not will depend on how he plays. But the trade itself I will always consider a good move. They're separate things in my mind.

If the kid doesn't develop, I'll treat him like every other qb not named 'Trent Green' for the last 18 years. But I won't ever fault them for taking their shot last night. That took guts.

Oh yeah. Sound logic spoken. Def fair enough.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Suddenly now this dumb shit cares about what "analysts" think, when he/she/it has spent endless amounts of time defending Bubble Screen Alex Smith from criticism from these very same "analysts".

Tigger's bleed out is long overdue and will become even more fantastic as time marches forward.

The Chiefs are officially a legit franchise now, and legit franchises don't waste much time with has-been game managers.

Piss on Tigger and every single one of Smith's transplant fan base.

[Easy 6]

Couldnt be happier, what we gave up is the price you pay to move up that far and secure your future

When you hear about how many teams were chomping at the bit to take him, and hear so many knowledgeable pros throw around comparisons like Favre and Rodgers... thats exciting

[Eleazar]

He's not the safest bet out there as QBs go, but I trust Dorsey.

The compensation was high, but it's always high to get a franchise QB. This league is QB-based, and we needed one. Now we have one.

Dorsey will probably shuffle things around to where we get the draft value back anyway.

It's better to overpay and get what you want than to lay back and find yourself without.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Couldnt be happier, what we gave up is the price you pay to move up that far and secure your future

When you hear about how many teams were chomping at the bit to take him, and hear so many knowledgeable pros throw around comparisons like Favre and Rodgers... thats exciting

Can you believe we finally ****ing did this?

And this kid?

I'm more excited about learning what makes this kid tick than I am any chick I've ever ****ed or will ****.

HUZZAH!

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Can you believe we finally ****ing did this?

And this kid?

I'm more excited about learning what makes this kid tick than I am any chick I've ever ****ed or will ****.

HUZZAH!

I hope he is a quick study so we can start him in 2018

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I hope he is a quick study so we can start him in 2018

Well, unlike some of the other QB's that they have brought in, this kid will fight his balls off to get that start.

I can't believe how ****ing perfect this situation is. This kid is EXACTLY what Reid and the offense needed.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Tried to say this last night as the server died:

I have wanted the Chiefs to draft and develop a quarterback for nearly 20 years. I didn't think they ever would. Because no matter how much of a carousel Arrowhead became for coaches and gm's, nothing really ever changed with their approach. They just played it safe to appease the season ticket holders. Year after year after year.

Then last night happened.

I've heard people say it's the wrong year. I've heard people say it's the wrong guy. I don't give a shit about that.

They identified their top player. They made a bold move to acquire him. And that...well, that's all I've ever wanted. It really is that simple.

I'm not giving the Mahomes experiment three years or five years, the way I have with past picks. This trade will always be a positive to me. Because even if he busts - and he may... - it will still ultimately have been exactly the kind of move the Chiefs need to make if they want to win championships, made at the perfect time when they were able and in position to do it. Meaning they had the picks, they found the player, and they pulled the trigger.

Who knows when they'll have the ability to get into the top ten again. They struck when the iron was hot and I will never criticize them for that.

Yeah, people can poke holes in it, but the risks are always there and the Chiefs traded up 17 spots in the first round to draft a quarterback. Until someone mentioned it to me earlier today, I had forgotten about the stat that no quarterback drafted by the Chiefs has even won a game for the Chiefs since the last one they drafted in the first round.

Anyone who's been a Chiefs fan for more than a few years has to appreciate the move, regardless of who else was available or whatever.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

It was a good trade and I am glad they moved up and got their guy. I trust Reid and Dorsey. I liked Watson better but am 100% on board with Mahommes.

Bump

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

It was a lot to give up for what I see as a deeply flawed QB prospect.

They better be right, and Deshaun Watson better not be the dude they should have picked. I thought he was going to go well before #10, and had you given me the option, I take Watson over Mahomes every time.

I approve greatly of the Chiefs finally grabbing their nuts and taking a risk, but I think they gave up way too much when they could have worked out a trade next year in a better QB class.

The Quarterback Whisperer