Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs - Page 14

**Rain Man** · 11:30 AM

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.

Original post: You can ignore this now.

Spoiler!

Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)

Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.

Teams As Of Post #113:

Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259)

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.)

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.)

**Rain Man** · 09-03-2009, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam

Okay, now let's say it's a Chiefs player. I drafted Quinten Lawrence along with the Chiefs. He'll most likely be sitting on the roster next year. If I cut him this year, and he's still a "real" Chief next year. He's he on or off the table for me?

Next year you'll have a new draft, you'll have your 35 players, and you'll have any new free agents that the Chiefs pick up.

Once you reject a player, he's gone forever. Unless, I guess, if he leaves and then comes back later as a free agent, a la Monty Beisel.

**wazu** · 09-03-2009, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Next year you'll have a new draft, you'll have your 35 players, and you'll have any new free agents that the Chiefs pick up.

Once you reject a player, he's gone forever. Unless, I guess, if he leaves and then comes back later as a free agent, a la Monty Beisel.

Okay, you actually explained that just fine in Step 6. No more dumb questions...at least not tonight.

**Rain Man** · 09-07-2009, 12:13 AM

So here's the process everyone.

First, I will reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe

Now I get to choose from my rookies:

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets)
#34 - Rey Maualuga - OLB - USC (went to Bengals)
#67 - Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions)
#102 - D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears)
#139 - Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers)
#175 - Myron Pryor - DE - Kentucky (went to Patriots)
#212 - Zack Follett - OLB - California (went to Lions)
#237 - No pick - Rejected Trade
#256 - Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers)

and the current roster MINUS rookies that I did not draft. (Note that I took the rookies out of this list.) I also include Tony Gonzalez since I rejected that trade, and removed Cassel and Vrabel from the list since I also rejected that trade.

76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
Alleman, Andy OG ACT 6'4" 310 11/20/1983 3 Akron
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston
52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee
10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
72 Dorsey, Glenn DT ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State
95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama
79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa
88 Gonzalez, Tony TE
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
91 Hali, Tamba DE ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
56 Johnson, Derrick OLB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State
60 Ndukwe, Ike G ACT 6'4" 325 7/17/1982 3 Northwestern
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska

So my 40-man roster is:

QB
Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets)
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State

FB
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions)

TE
88 Gonzalez, Tony TE
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers)

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers)
79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State

K
(Scrub)

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee

FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA

SS
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State

CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears)

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
Rey Maualuga - OLB - USC (went to Bengals)
53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton

ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State

DE
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State
Myron Pryor - DE - Kentucky (went to Patriots)
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama

DT
95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State

If I can't get enough games out of these players, I'll be going with "scrubs" to fill out my remaining games.

My Cuts:

59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum
10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
Alleman, Andy OG ACT 6'4" 310 11/20/1983 3 Akron
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State
60 Ndukwe, Ike G ACT 6'4" 325 7/17/1982 3 Northwestern
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois

**wazu** · 09-07-2009, 11:37 AM

Here's my attempt so far. Reserving the right to tweak prior to the deadline. Including my draft/trade information as well.

The 2009 Fresno Refugees Offseason Trade Accepts/Rejects

1. The Fresno Refugees reject the Cassel/Vrabel trade.
2. The Fresno Refugees accept the Gonzales trade.
3. The Fresno Refugees accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick.
4. The Fresno Refugees reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe.

The 2009 Fresno Refugees NFL Draft

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC
#34 - Clint Sintim - OLB - Virginia
#67 - Chase Coffman - TE - Missouri
#102 - Donald Washington - CB - Ohio State
#139 - Colin Brown - OT - Missouri
#175 - Quinten Lawrence - WR - McNeese State
#212 - Javarris Williams - RB - Tennessee State - CUT (signed to Practice Squad)
#237 - Jake O'Connell - WR - Miami (Ohio)
#256 - Ryan Succop - K - South Carolina

The 2009 Fresno Refugees 35-Man Roster

QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets)
Brodie Croyle
Tyler Thigpen
Matt Gutierrez

RB
Larry Johnson
Jamaal Charles
Jackie Battle
Dantrell Savage

FB
Mike Cox

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Mark Bradley
Quinten Lawrence
Terrance Copper

OL
Branden Albert
Ryan O'Callaghan
Colin Brown
Brian Waters
Rudy Niswanger

TE
Chase Coffman (Bengals)
Sean Ryan
Jake O'Connell

DL
Glenn Dorsey
Tank Tyler
Ron Edwards
Wallace Gilberry
Turk McBride

LB
Derrick Johnson
Tamba Hali
Clint Sintim (Giants)
Corey Mays
Andy Studebaker
Demorrio Williams

DB
Brandon Flowers
Brandon Carr
Maurice Leggett
Donald Washington
Jarred Page
Jajuan Morgan

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

**Rain Man** · 09-07-2009, 12:28 PM

Edit: I forgot that I rejected the Tony Gonzalez trade, so I added him to my roster and cut Sean Ryan.

patteeu · 09-07-2009, 02:24 PM

I will reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe

My rookies:
#3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
#34 (Traded for Cassel)
#67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin
#102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State
#139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri
#175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
#212 - Javarris Williams RB Tennessee State
#237 - Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
#256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina

My 35 man roster:

QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston

FB
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
#175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee

T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
#139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
#67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin (drafted by Steelers)
79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State

K
#256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee

FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA

SS
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska

CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
#102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton

ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska

DE
#3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State
92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama

DT
95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State

Cuts:
52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum
10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois

**Rain Man** · 09-07-2009, 05:38 PM

Okay, I pm'ed everyone who drafted other than bdeg, whose mailbox is full. We're going to go with a 40-Chief roster instead of the 35 stated in the rules, so we aren't too thin at certain positions.

chiefscafan · 09-07-2009, 06:07 PM

LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th

LA Cobras Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)

Man this sucks now all injuries and a dumb ass crabtree I don't want to play lol jk. Ok I'll have my roster tomorrow on my day off also will have my alt 3 roster done

**Rain Man** · 09-07-2009, 06:11 PM

Heh. Only 1 of your top four picks is in camp without a body cast. You're a prime lesson in how luck plays a role.

One of my low-round picks was cut, which was a bummer since I thought he was a steal. They don't all work out, though.

**wazu** · 09-07-2009, 06:59 PM

Do we need to have a long snapper?

**Rain Man** · 09-07-2009, 07:26 PM

Nah, no long snapper. Too hard to figure out who does it.

**wazu** · 09-07-2009, 09:13 PM

One more dumb question - what about players that are cut, but then signed to the practice squad? Is Barry Richardson off limits now?

**The Franchise** · 09-08-2009, 09:21 AM

Question:

Are our drafts final? I just realized that I don't have a kicker.....and that would suck. Are we allowed to redo our drafts?

**Rain Man** · 09-08-2009, 09:25 AM

You can still put Richardson on your squad since he's on the final roster (even if it's practice squad).

And pestilence, I have the same problem with the kicker. I think it's too late to re-do our drafts, and there's no way to pick one up. Unless people can come up with a reasonable solution, I think you and I are going with Scrubby McScrub as our kicker this year.

**The Franchise** · 09-08-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

You can still put Richardson on your squad since he's on the final roster (even if it's practice squad).

And pestilence, I have the same problem with the kicker. I think it's too late to re-do our drafts, and there's no way to pick one up. Unless people can come up with a reasonable solution, I think you and I are going with Scrubby McScrub as our kicker this year.

Does the scrub count on our 40 man roster?

03-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1408491 VARSITY	Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years. 1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster. 2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add. 3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing. 4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster. 5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have. 6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post. 6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. 7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players. Original post: You can ignore this now. Spoiler! Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon. The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting. Here's how the game will work. Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.) Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly. Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub". Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285. Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues. Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player. There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap. I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting. So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team. Teams As Of Post #113: Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox) Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333) Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman) Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon) Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover) Duluth Normans (Rain Man) El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz) Fargo Rape (SNR) Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good) Fresno Refugees (Adam) Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter) Hartford Manticores (Crush) Honolulu Craters (Sully) Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu) Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser) Little Rock Reapers (doomy3) Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan) Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis) Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut) Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka) Omaha Streakers (speak24) Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry) Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72) San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog) Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg) Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23) Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts) Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1) Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie) Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk) Worcester Sauce (unothadeal) Added Rules and Reminders: 1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted. 2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in. 3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent. For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259) For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.) You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.) Last edited by Rain Man; 04-25-2024 at 11:30 AM..*
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09-07-2009, 12:13 AM	#198
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1408491 VARSITY	So here's the process everyone. First, I will reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe Now I get to choose from my rookies: #3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets) #34 - Rey Maualuga - OLB - USC (went to Bengals) #67 - Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions) #102 - D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears) #139 - Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers) #175 - Myron Pryor - DE - Kentucky (went to Patriots) #212 - Zack Follett - OLB - California (went to Lions) #237 - No pick - Rejected Trade #256 - Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers) and the current roster MINUS rookies that I did not draft. (Note that I took the rookies out of this list.) I also include Tony Gonzalez since I rejected that trade, and removed Cassel and Vrabel from the list since I also rejected that trade. 76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia Alleman, Andy OG ACT 6'4" 310 11/20/1983 3 Akron 26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston 52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State 59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine 82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State 83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma 48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska 39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State 7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC 25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas 30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum 2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee 10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina 87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee 42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech 12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama 57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas 81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State 72 Dorsey, Glenn DT ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State 95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M 84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State 24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech 43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston 92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama 79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa 88 Gonzalez, Tony TE 15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State 91 Hali, Tamba DE ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State 56 Johnson, Derrick OLB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas 27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State 31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State 69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas 51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame 90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee 47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State 38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State 60 Ndukwe, Ike G ACT 6'4" 325 7/17/1982 3 Northwestern 64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California 44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA 89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College 29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State 74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis 21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville 96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton 4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina 93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State 50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State 67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois 54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas 53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska So my 40-man roster is: QB Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets) 12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama 4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina HB 27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State 25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas 26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston 29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State FB 42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State 83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions) TE 88 Gonzalez, Tony TE 74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis T 76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers) G 54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers) 79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa C 64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State K (Scrub) P 2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee FS 44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA SS 38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State CB 24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech 39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State 31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears) OLB 91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State Rey Maualuga - OLB - USC (went to Bengals) 53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska 96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton ILB 56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas 51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame 52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State DE 72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State Myron Pryor - DE - Kentucky (went to Patriots) 90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee 92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama DT 95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M 93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State If I can't get enough games out of these players, I'll be going with "scrubs" to fill out my remaining games. My Cuts: 59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine 48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska 30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum 10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina 87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee 15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State 57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas 81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State 84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State 43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston Alleman, Andy OG ACT 6'4" 310 11/20/1983 3 Akron 69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas 47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State 60 Ndukwe, Ike G ACT 6'4" 325 7/17/1982 3 Northwestern 21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville 67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history. 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09-07-2009, 11:37 AM	#199
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $302295 VARSITY	Here's my attempt so far. Reserving the right to tweak prior to the deadline. Including my draft/trade information as well. The 2009 Fresno Refugees Offseason Trade Accepts/Rejects 1. The Fresno Refugees reject the Cassel/Vrabel trade. 2. The Fresno Refugees accept the Gonzales trade. 3. The Fresno Refugees accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick. 4. The Fresno Refugees reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe. The 2009 Fresno Refugees NFL Draft #3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC #34 - Clint Sintim - OLB - Virginia #67 - Chase Coffman - TE - Missouri #102 - Donald Washington - CB - Ohio State #139 - Colin Brown - OT - Missouri #175 - Quinten Lawrence - WR - McNeese State #212 - Javarris Williams - RB - Tennessee State - CUT (signed to Practice Squad) #237 - Jake O'Connell - WR - Miami (Ohio) #256 - Ryan Succop - K - South Carolina The 2009 Fresno Refugees 35-Man Roster QB Mark Sanchez (Jets) Brodie Croyle Tyler Thigpen Matt Gutierrez RB Larry Johnson Jamaal Charles Jackie Battle Dantrell Savage FB Mike Cox WR Dwayne Bowe Mark Bradley Quinten Lawrence Terrance Copper OL Branden Albert Ryan O'Callaghan Colin Brown Brian Waters Rudy Niswanger TE Chase Coffman (Bengals) Sean Ryan Jake O'Connell DL Glenn Dorsey Tank Tyler Ron Edwards Wallace Gilberry Turk McBride LB Derrick Johnson Tamba Hali Clint Sintim (Giants) Corey Mays Andy Studebaker Demorrio Williams DB Brandon Flowers Brandon Carr Maurice Leggett Donald Washington Jarred Page Jajuan Morgan K Ryan Succop P Dustin Colquitt Last edited by wazu; 09-07-2009 at 09:12 PM..
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09-07-2009, 12:28 PM	#200
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1408491 VARSITY	Edit: I forgot that I rejected the Tony Gonzalez trade, so I added him to my roster and cut Sean Ryan. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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09-07-2009, 02:24 PM	#201
patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $10019237	I will reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe My rookies: #3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU #34 (Traded for Cassel) #67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin #102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State #139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri #175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State #212 - Javarris Williams RB Tennessee State #237 - Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU #256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina My 35 man roster: QB 7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC 12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama 4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina HB 27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State 25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas 26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston FB 42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State 83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma 84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State #175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State TE 89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College 87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee T 76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California #139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri G 54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas #67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin (drafted by Steelers) 79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa C 64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State K #256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina P 2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee FS 44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA SS 38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State 48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska CB 24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech 39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State 31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State #102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State OLB 91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State 50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State 96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton ILB 56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas 51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame 53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska DE #3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU 72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State 92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama DT 95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M 93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State Cuts: 52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State 59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine 30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum 10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina 57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas 81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State 43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston 15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State 69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas 90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee 47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State 29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State 74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis 21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville 67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois __________________ “Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham Last edited by patteeu; 09-07-2009 at 06:53 PM.. Reason: Updated to make a 40 man roster
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09-07-2009, 05:38 PM	#202
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1408491 VARSITY	Okay, I pm'ed everyone who drafted other than bdeg, whose mailbox is full. We're going to go with a 40-Chief roster instead of the 35 stated in the rules, so we aren't too thin at certain positions. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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09-07-2009, 06:07 PM	#203
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th LA Cobras Draft: #3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers) #67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears) #102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys) #139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles) #175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins) #212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) #237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers) #256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs) Man this sucks now all injuries and a dumb ass crabtree I don't want to play lol jk. Ok I'll have my roster tomorrow on my day off also will have my alt 3 roster done
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09-07-2009, 06:11 PM	#204
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1408491 VARSITY	Heh. Only 1 of your top four picks is in camp without a body cast. You're a prime lesson in how luck plays a role. One of my low-round picks was cut, which was a bummer since I thought he was a steal. They don't all work out, though. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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09-07-2009, 06:59 PM	#205
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $302295 VARSITY	Do we need to have a long snapper?
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09-07-2009, 07:26 PM	#206
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1408491 VARSITY	Nah, no long snapper. Too hard to figure out who does it. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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09-07-2009, 09:13 PM	#207
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $302295 VARSITY	One more dumb question - what about players that are cut, but then signed to the practice squad? Is Barry Richardson off limits now?
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09-08-2009, 09:21 AM	#208
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2555047	Question: Are our drafts final? I just realized that I don't have a kicker.....and that would suck. Are we allowed to redo our drafts?
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09-08-2009, 09:25 AM	#209
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1408491 VARSITY	You can still put Richardson on your squad since he's on the final roster (even if it's practice squad). And pestilence, I have the same problem with the kicker. I think it's too late to re-do our drafts, and there's no way to pick one up. Unless people can come up with a reasonable solution, I think you and I are going with Scrubby McScrub as our kicker this year. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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