*** 2023 Draft Simulator Mocks *** - Page 14

kccrow · 02-02-2023, 09:05 PM

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kccrow · 04-24-2023, 11:29 AM

The first crack at the ESPN simulator, I made a move up for Broderick Jones when he slipped to 20.

Pick
Player
Player Rank
Chance Available at Pick
Chance Available at Next Pick
20
Broderick Jones OT
13
13%
<5%
83
Zacch Pickens DT
68
42%
24%
95
A.T. Perry WR
88
60%
20%
134
Luke Schoonmaker TE
84
28%
9%
166
Rejzohn Wright CB
122
92%
88%
178
DeMarvion Overshown ILB
133
56%
33%
217
Sean Tucker RB
178
64%
47%
249
Eku Leota DE
220
58%
58%
250
Bryce Ford-Wheaton WR
284
81%
--%
#
Gained
Lost
1
•Pick 20
•Pick 83
↔
•Pick 31
•Pick 63
•Pick 122

duncan_idaho · 04-24-2023, 01:52 PM

Just a 4-rounder

1.31 Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama. Maybe, as things shake out, one of the few guys worthy of a round 1 pick in this draft?

2.63 Keanu Benton, DT, Wisconsin. We've talked about him a lot. Nice pick for 2023 and the future.

3.82 Blake Freeland, OT, BYU. Last of this tier, I moved up to make sure I got one. Instant competiton at RT.

4.122 DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas. Yes, the Chiefs' LB corps is stacked, but Overshown is a nice long-term prospect at coverage backer (and gives you insurance there if you decide you can't rightly pay Gay or Tranquill).

stopped there. But I see the value of this, especially if you're using Gibbs more like Deebo Samuel...

Nightfyre · 04-24-2023, 04:29 PM

Not a terrible effort. My thought is that Veach doesn't ever hesitate to pay the third and fourth to take a shot at a premium edge rusher. We have arguably more picks than roster spots, so it makes sense to move up at some point. I think pfns board really falls apart after the third round.

Reciever value wasn't there in the second and the premium athlete at guard to plan for Thuneys departure.

duncan_idaho · 04-24-2023, 07:32 PM

Guys, please realize that when you pull the trigger on Mauch , you’re pulling the trigger on an NFL G, not a T. At least for Heck/Reid.

Dante84 · 04-24-2023, 11:05 PM

No trades; addressed major needs.

The more of these I do, the more I think we just smash the DLine early.

Nightfyre · 04-25-2023, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Guys, please realize that when you pull 5he trigger on March, you’re pulling the trigger on an NFL G, not a T. At least for Heck/Reid.

I mean, I think I pretty clearly spelled that out in my narrative?
In the bottom of the second, you can't turn down the value if he's there. It enables you to get him up to speed this year, since he's coming from am fcs program, and you have a potential Perennial pro bowler to replace Thuney next year, enabling you to trade him or cut him to save about 9.5m against the cap in 24 and 22.6 against the cap in 25.
Trading Thuney next year with two years of cheap control probably gets you a decent little draft return as well - at least a second I would think.

duncan_idaho · 04-25-2023, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I mean, I think I pretty clearly spelled that out in my narrative?

In the bottom of the second, you can't turn down the value if he's there. It enables you to get him up to speed this year, since he's coming from am fcs program, and you have a potential Perennial pro bowler to replace Thuney next year, enabling you to trade him or cut him to save about 9.5m against the cap in 24 and 22.6 against the cap in 25.

Trading Thuney next year with two years of cheap control probably gets you a decent little draft return as well - at least a second I would think.

You aren't the only one who has mocked him, but I didn't see your narrative at first.

I would have strong reservations about taking a G prospect to sit a year (and likely two, as I don't think a Thuney trade would really materialize) with that pick.

Trade out if there isn't a guy you love there, just don't take it on a depth guy at a non-premium position who doesn't project to contribute until 1/2 through his rookie contract.

**The Franchise** · 04-25-2023, 03:00 PM

Not even really counting those last two picks based on me not thinking that they'd be there.

31. Quentin Johnston, WR TCU
63. Luke Musgrave, TE Oregon State
95. Zacch Pickens, DT South Carolina
122. Wanya Morris, OT Oklahoma
134. Jaquelin Roy, DT LSU
166. Riley Moss, CB Iowa
178. YaYa Diaby, EDGE Louisville
217. Jose Ramirez, EDGE Eastern Michigan
249. Keondre Coburn, DT Texas
250. Nick Saldiveri, OT Old Dominion

kccrow · 04-25-2023, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

You aren't the only one who has mocked him, but I didn't see your narrative at first.

I would have strong reservations about taking a G prospect to sit a year (and likely two, as I don't think a Thuney trade would really materialize) with that pick.

Trade out if there isn't a guy you love there, just don't take it on a depth guy at a non-premium position who doesn't prokect to contrinbute until 1/2 through his rookie contract.

I don't know what the means but man if I'm not on board with the rest of it.

duncan_idaho · 04-26-2023, 10:01 AM

Here's my last mock of the cycle, completed on the ESPN simulator (which seems to have the best board right now).

1.31 Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame. Mayer slipped a little, the T I liked at this spot were gone, as were WR, and RB. So I nabbed Mayer with the plan of drastically ramping up the amount of 12 set I play in 23 and forward. This lets me use Kelce in the big slot role basically exclusively, while adding a nice playmaker long-term for Mahomes.

2.50 Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan. I made teh Mayer pick planning to move up into the middle of the 2nd for a DL player, and when Smith slipped, he became the pick. To facilitate, I sent 63, 134, and a 2024 3rd to Tampa for 50 and a 2024 5th.

3.84 Blake Freeland, OT, BYU. I wanted to add competition and versatility to the OL, and chose to move up to get Freeland and accomplish that. It cost me 95, 178, and a 2024 4th, though I again received a 2024 5th back. Odds are good one of those 5ths I've netted will be within 10 picks of the 4th I just surrendered.

4.122 Robert Beal, Jr, DE, Georgia. I reached a bit here for Beal, but I think he has a lot more in the tank after being relegated to a rotation in a deep and talented Georgia front. The Frank Clark comparisons make sense to me, and I could see him drastically outplaying this draft slot.

5.166 DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas. He has become one of my favorites in the middle rounds. ST guy in 23 with the ability to slide into a pass defending-LB role in 24 if both Tranquill and Gay price themselves out.

6217 Ronnie Bell, WR, Michigan. I finally return to the pass catchers and add an oft-injured but speedy and shift opton on offense.

7.249 Holton Ahlers, QB, Eastern Carolina. WIth back-to-back 7ths and no DBs I like really available, I swung on Ahlers, who could be a cheap long-term backup solution for Mahomes.

7.250 Dee Winters, LB, TCU. He's fast and fearless, if undersized. Seems like a good ST contributor, if nothing else.

I would have really liked to squeeze in a DB somewhere in here (probably in place of one of the LB) but just never had someone in smart range that I actually liked and thought fit what KC does.

Post draft depth:

QB Mahomes/Gabbert (Ahlers to PS)
RB Pacheco/Edwards-Helaire/FA
FB ONLY RYAN TRACY AND ANDY REID CARE
WR Toney/Valdes-Scantling/Moore/James/Watson/Bell
TE Kelce/Mayer/Gray/Fortson
OT Taylor/Niang/Freeland/Tano-Wanogho
OG Thuney/Smith/Kinnard
C Humphrey/FA

DE Karlaftis/Omenihu/Danna/Beal/Vet FA
DT Jones/Smith/Nnadi/Wharton

LB Bolton/Tranquill/Gay/Chenal/Overshown/(Winters to PS)
CB Sneed/McDuffie/Williams/Watson/ (this is where I'd like to slot in a DB instead of Winters in my draft or a FA)
S Reid/Cook/Mike Edwards/Bush

K Butker
P Townsend
LS Winchester

By my count, that's 49 spots. I'd expect a few more DBs and WRs to flesh out the ST units. I'd feel really good about this squad.

Couch-Potato · 11-15-2023, 07:15 AM

New Simulator:https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/simulator

..I think they're still working out the kinks though

Couch-Potato · 11-15-2023, 10:47 AM

What offensive concerns?

38.KC

Troy Franklin
WR Oregon

63.KC

Xavier Legette
WR South Carolina

72.KC

Tyler Guyton
OT Oklahoma
trade icon

94.KC

Johnny Wilson
TE Florida State

127.KC

Junior Colson
LB Michigan

223.KC

Zion Nelson
OT Miami (FL)

Couch-Potato · 11-15-2023, 12:11 PM

Noted that OT Zion Nelson was a potential 1st rounder early last season, then pulled out of the draft, now he's going in like the 7th... what happened?

Alternatively, I noticed DB Quinyon Mitchell was a 7th rounder last year and upgraded to 2-4th rounder this draft depending on the site. Good for him!

Couch-Potato · 11-20-2023, 03:34 PM

Do any allow for player trades?

I recall the feature, but can't recall which simulator had it.

Couch-Potato · 11-20-2023, 03:51 PM

Let's get physical...

32. WR Legette
63. DT Sweat (He'll go in the 1st)
94. WR Corley
131. RB Sanders
162. TE Spann-Ford
172. LB C. Jacobs
208. DL M. Kamara

All muscle draft!

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04-24-2023, 11:29 AM	#196
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $286403	The first crack at the ESPN simulator, I made a move up for Broderick Jones when he slipped to 20. Pick Player Player Rank Chance Available at Pick Chance Available at Next Pick 20 Broderick Jones OT 13 13% <5% 83 Zacch Pickens DT 68 42% 24% 95 A.T. Perry WR 88 60% 20% 134 Luke Schoonmaker TE 84 28% 9% 166 Rejzohn Wright CB 122 92% 88% 178 DeMarvion Overshown ILB 133 56% 33% 217 Sean Tucker RB 178 64% 47% 249 Eku Leota DE 220 58% 58% 250 Bryce Ford-Wheaton WR 284 81% --% # Gained Lost 1 •Pick 20 •Pick 83 ↔ •Pick 31 •Pick 63 •Pick 122
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04-24-2023, 01:52 PM	#197
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-139692	Just a 4-rounder 1.31 Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama. Maybe, as things shake out, one of the few guys worthy of a round 1 pick in this draft? 2.63 Keanu Benton, DT, Wisconsin. We've talked about him a lot. Nice pick for 2023 and the future. 3.82 Blake Freeland, OT, BYU. Last of this tier, I moved up to make sure I got one. Instant competiton at RT. 4.122 DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas. Yes, the Chiefs' LB corps is stacked, but Overshown is a nice long-term prospect at coverage backer (and gives you insurance there if you decide you can't rightly pay Gay or Tranquill). stopped there. But I see the value of this, especially if you're using Gibbs more like Deebo Samuel... __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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04-24-2023, 04:29 PM	#198
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $2308849	Not a terrible effort. My thought is that Veach doesn't ever hesitate to pay the third and fourth to take a shot at a premium edge rusher. We have arguably more picks than roster spots, so it makes sense to move up at some point. I think pfns board really falls apart after the third round. Reciever value wasn't there in the second and the premium athlete at guard to plan for Thuneys departure. Attached Thumbnails
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04-24-2023, 07:32 PM	#199
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-139692	Guys, please realize that when you pull the trigger on Mauch , you’re pulling the trigger on an NFL G, not a T. At least for Heck/Reid. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra Last edited by duncan_idaho; 04-25-2023 at 12:53 PM..
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04-24-2023, 11:05 PM	#200
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-78004 VARSITY	No trades; addressed major needs. The more of these I do, the more I think we just smash the DLine early. Attached Thumbnails __________________ ..
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04-25-2023, 03:00 PM	#203
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2555047	Not even really counting those last two picks based on me not thinking that they'd be there. 31. Quentin Johnston, WR TCU 63. Luke Musgrave, TE Oregon State 95. Zacch Pickens, DT South Carolina 122. Wanya Morris, OT Oklahoma 134. Jaquelin Roy, DT LSU 166. Riley Moss, CB Iowa 178. YaYa Diaby, EDGE Louisville 217. Jose Ramirez, EDGE Eastern Michigan 249. Keondre Coburn, DT Texas 250. Nick Saldiveri, OT Old Dominion
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04-26-2023, 10:01 AM	#205
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-139692	Here's my last mock of the cycle, completed on the ESPN simulator (which seems to have the best board right now). 1.31 Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame. Mayer slipped a little, the T I liked at this spot were gone, as were WR, and RB. So I nabbed Mayer with the plan of drastically ramping up the amount of 12 set I play in 23 and forward. This lets me use Kelce in the big slot role basically exclusively, while adding a nice playmaker long-term for Mahomes. 2.50 Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan. I made teh Mayer pick planning to move up into the middle of the 2nd for a DL player, and when Smith slipped, he became the pick. To facilitate, I sent 63, 134, and a 2024 3rd to Tampa for 50 and a 2024 5th. 3.84 Blake Freeland, OT, BYU. I wanted to add competition and versatility to the OL, and chose to move up to get Freeland and accomplish that. It cost me 95, 178, and a 2024 4th, though I again received a 2024 5th back. Odds are good one of those 5ths I've netted will be within 10 picks of the 4th I just surrendered. 4.122 Robert Beal, Jr, DE, Georgia. I reached a bit here for Beal, but I think he has a lot more in the tank after being relegated to a rotation in a deep and talented Georgia front. The Frank Clark comparisons make sense to me, and I could see him drastically outplaying this draft slot. 5.166 DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas. He has become one of my favorites in the middle rounds. ST guy in 23 with the ability to slide into a pass defending-LB role in 24 if both Tranquill and Gay price themselves out. 6217 Ronnie Bell, WR, Michigan. I finally return to the pass catchers and add an oft-injured but speedy and shift opton on offense. 7.249 Holton Ahlers, QB, Eastern Carolina. WIth back-to-back 7ths and no DBs I like really available, I swung on Ahlers, who could be a cheap long-term backup solution for Mahomes. 7.250 Dee Winters, LB, TCU. He's fast and fearless, if undersized. Seems like a good ST contributor, if nothing else. I would have really liked to squeeze in a DB somewhere in here (probably in place of one of the LB) but just never had someone in smart range that I actually liked and thought fit what KC does. Post draft depth: QB Mahomes/Gabbert (Ahlers to PS) RB Pacheco/Edwards-Helaire/FA FB ONLY RYAN TRACY AND ANDY REID CARE WR Toney/Valdes-Scantling/Moore/James/Watson/Bell TE Kelce/Mayer/Gray/Fortson OT Taylor/Niang/Freeland/Tano-Wanogho OG Thuney/Smith/Kinnard C Humphrey/FA DE Karlaftis/Omenihu/Danna/Beal/Vet FA DT Jones/Smith/Nnadi/Wharton LB Bolton/Tranquill/Gay/Chenal/Overshown/(Winters to PS) CB Sneed/McDuffie/Williams/Watson/ (this is where I'd like to slot in a DB instead of Winters in my draft or a FA) S Reid/Cook/Mike Edwards/Bush K Butker P Townsend LS Winchester By my count, that's 49 spots. I'd expect a few more DBs and WRs to flesh out the ST units. I'd feel really good about this squad. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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11-15-2023, 07:15 AM	#206
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11-15-2023, 10:47 AM	#207
Couch-Potato MVP Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $1763065	What offensive concerns? 38.KC Troy Franklin WR Oregon 63.KC Xavier Legette WR South Carolina 72.KC Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma trade icon 94.KC Johnny Wilson TE Florida State 127.KC Junior Colson LB Michigan 223.KC Zion Nelson OT Miami (FL)
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11-15-2023, 12:11 PM	#208
Couch-Potato MVP Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $1763065	Noted that OT Zion Nelson was a potential 1st rounder early last season, then pulled out of the draft, now he's going in like the 7th... what happened? Alternatively, I noticed DB Quinyon Mitchell was a 7th rounder last year and upgraded to 2-4th rounder this draft depending on the site. Good for him!
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11-20-2023, 03:34 PM	#209
Couch-Potato MVP Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $1763065	Do any allow for player trades? I recall the feature, but can't recall which simulator had it.
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11-20-2023, 03:51 PM	#210
Couch-Potato MVP Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $1763065	Let's get physical... 32. WR Legette 63. DT Sweat (He'll go in the 1st) 94. WR Corley 131. RB Sanders 162. TE Spann-Ford 172. LB C. Jacobs 208. DL M. Kamara All muscle draft!
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