Chiefs *****The Kareem Hunt Thread***** - Page 14

Dante84 · 08:45 PM

Updates to come.

Mr. Laz · 04-29-2017, 01:45 PM

bigger version of West?

TLO · 04-29-2017, 01:52 PM

I heard his brother Mike played at OSU in the 80's.

FloridaMan88 · 04-29-2017, 02:01 PM

Chiefs need a home run threat to compliment Ware/West and Hunt doesn't seem to fit that profile.

Of course Hill can always line-up in the backfield and fill that home run rushing threat role as well.

**Baby Lee** · 04-29-2017, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke

I heard his brother Mike played at OSU in the 80's.

You really should try it Kareemed.

RunKC · 04-29-2017, 02:08 PM

You guys will feel better about this guy when he is converting short yardage 3rd downs.

Dante84 · 04-29-2017, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Chiefs need a home run threat to compliment Ware/West and Hunt doesn't seem to fit that profile.

Of course Hill can always line-up in the backfield and fill that home run rushing threat role as well.

I disagree.

I think West should be replaced, Ware should move to 1b, while we have a David Johnson guy to be the feature back.

~~Don't forget that Hill will take touches from the backfield, and serve as that home run rushing threat if need by.~~

Edit: Im a dumbass

**Baby Lee** · 04-29-2017, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Chiefs need a home run threat to compliment Ware/West and Hunt doesn't seem to fit that profile.

Of course Hill can always line-up in the backfield and fill that home run rushing threat role as well.

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Originally Posted by Dante84

I disagree.

I think West should be replaced, Ware should move to 1b, while we have a David Johnson guy to be the feature back.

Don't forget that Hill will take touches from the backfield, and serve as that home run rushing threat if need by.

Is it just me? Am I taking goofy pills?

Dante84 · 04-29-2017, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Is it just me? Am I taking goofy pills?

hahahaha

Im tired and hungover. My bad.

Mr. Laz · 04-29-2017, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

I disagree.

I think West should be replaced, Ware should move to 1b, while we have a David Johnson guy to be the feature back.

~~Don't forget that Hill will take touches from the backfield, and serve as that home run rushing threat if need by.~~

Edit: Im a dumbass

I agree that West is the one that should lose touches.

We throw so many passes to stretch the defense laterally that running up the middle helps more than running laterally.

Warrick · 04-29-2017, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead

He has all the tools to serve as Rb1 and share a role with Ware, all kinds of home run ability too.

go bo · 04-29-2017, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

That's why Priest and Emmitt Smith sucked ass.

i was just thinking that...

one of the greatest offenses ever seen in kc had a slow running back just like that...

and there were times he didn't score when he broke free, that's true also...

me likee berry berry mucho grandeist!

**hometeam** · 04-29-2017, 05:43 PM

Stole this from reddit, and reformatted it to fit CP - good in depth breakdown - all credit to u/WastedFrog.

Today's report is on Toledo RB Kareem Hunt. I wanted to do someone a little less known since everyone has opinions on the top guys already.

Measurables
Height: 5'10
Weight: 216
40 time: 4.62
Vert: 36.5
Broad: 9'11"

Elite Traits

Physicality
Kareem Hunt is a very difficult man to tackle. The first man to lay hands on him being the one who brings him down is a rare occurrence. His tackle breaking ability is right up there with guys like Leonard Fournette. Plays like these are easy to find with Hunt. He regularly shrugs off linebackers.

Ball Security
in his college career of four seasons, 782 carries and 73 receptions he never once lost the football. NEVER. that is insane.

Effort
It's weird to put this in elite traits but I have rarely seen RBs who consistently play as hard as Hunt. He is ALWAYS fighting for that extra yard.

NFL Level Traits

Vision
Hunt has that crucial RB gift of seeing where the hole is going to be when he gets there. he rarely has to hesitate unnecessarily behind the line reading his blocks. He can get small and squeeze through a small hole. his first cut is very quick and to the point which helps him be decisive and follow his eyes.. His vision isn't limited to hitting the line either. he can read a field in open space just as well. this gif is a good example of his vision for both the line and open field.

Elusiveness
for as much as he relies on being able to break tackles he's no slouch when it comes to shaking opponents off before they can touch him. Hunt is a big fan of the spin move, and he's damn good at it, though it can get him into trouble as well. He man make very fast jump cuts to get away from low tackles. He moves quickly and with purpose to make guys miss in the open field. His combination of elusiveness and physicality often leads to runs like this where he shows off the best he's got in both regards

Balance
He runs with his shoulders down to keep his center of Gravity low and it really shows. He recovers from near falls when other RBs would be on their asses. In this play he ends up with his hand on the ground but recovers incredibly fast and jukes an oncoming defender. This play is just amazing

Workhorse
In this age of RBBC and pass catching backs there aren't as many of these guys around anymore. This gif of back to back tough physical runs is something you'll see several times a game from Hunt. if you want a guy who is gonna be on the field for most of the game, Hunt is on your list.

Hands
Hunt wasn't used as a pass catcher a ton. Mostly as a dumpoff receiver, but he has soft hands and a couple amazing catches (see the last gif in Balance). I watched 6 games and he caught multiple passes in each and never dropped one.

Needs Work

Pass Protection
If he's gonna be an every down back he's gonna have to get better at pass blocking. his cut blocks can be half assed at times and he needs to learn to get a better leverage advantage. he sometimes gets bullied

Route Running
He just didn't do a lot of this but given NFL trends, his good hands and his ability to make plays in space he's going to be asked to do more in the NFL. aside from a couple wheel routes I don't think he has ever run a route. I think he has the skills to do it but he's gonna take a while to learn it.

Negatives

Build
He's a little on the small side. while he did fine in his conference the bigger stronger NFL players could cause a leverage problem when he's trying to out physical the defense. it even shows up on occasion in college tape. I love this next gif because it shows his biggest weakness and his biggest strength. He gets shoved back because he can't get a leverage advantage and then shows his effort in getting back to the line

Dancing
While he gets an A for effort it also gets him into trouble a lot. there are a lot of cases of him dancing around trying to break out from a hopeless situation instead of just taking the yards he has available.

Speed
Hunt just doesn't have breakaway speed. Think of someone like Frank Gore. He can get you a ton of yards and he's fast enough to get into space but if it comes down to a footrace against a DB, he's not gonna win it.

Pro Comparison: Spencer Ware

I went into this only having watched one game of his before now and thinking he's an early day 3 back. Now I'll be very surprised if he lasts past the 3rd. Hunt is a legit NFL starter IMO. More than that he's an every down back. I suppose his lack of size and the depth of the class could push him down ala Kenneth Dixon last year (another good comparison for Hunt as a player) but I won't agree with it if it happens.

**Easy 6** · 04-29-2017, 08:27 PM

Thats a nice sample of his skills from hometeam, I considered quoting it in full just to piss everyone off

But seriously, dude is just solid... no, there is no wow factor in regard to speed or insane jukes, but the guy just guts it out every time

He is a chain mover, not a home run hitter, maxes out every opportunity to the best of his ability... I'm thinking Duce Staley

Chiefshrink · 04-29-2017, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

I'm thinking Duce Staley

Ya know that is a very good comparison because I had him as Giovanni Bernard with attitude. Kudos to you my friend ! I think you nailed it !!

**Easy 6** · 04-29-2017, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Ya know that is a very good comparison because I had him as Giovanni Bernard with attitude. Kudos to you my friend ! I think you nailed it !!

Bernard is totally valid as well, guys like this dont scare the hell out of anyone... but they give your offense another set of downs to scare them with

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04-29-2017, 05:43 PM	#207
hometeam Supporter Join Date: Jul 2011 Casino cash: $2791956	Stole this from reddit, and reformatted it to fit CP - good in depth breakdown - all credit to u/WastedFrog. Today's report is on Toledo RB Kareem Hunt. I wanted to do someone a little less known since everyone has opinions on the top guys already. Measurables Height: 5'10 Weight: 216 40 time: 4.62 Vert: 36.5 Broad: 9'11" Elite Traits Physicality Kareem Hunt is a very difficult man to tackle. The first man to lay hands on him being the one who brings him down is a rare occurrence. His tackle breaking ability is right up there with guys like Leonard Fournette. Plays like these are easy to find with Hunt. He regularly shrugs off linebackers. Ball Security in his college career of four seasons, 782 carries and 73 receptions he never once lost the football. NEVER. that is insane. Effort It's weird to put this in elite traits but I have rarely seen RBs who consistently play as hard as Hunt. He is ALWAYS fighting for that extra yard. NFL Level Traits Vision Hunt has that crucial RB gift of seeing where the hole is going to be when he gets there. he rarely has to hesitate unnecessarily behind the line reading his blocks. He can get small and squeeze through a small hole. his first cut is very quick and to the point which helps him be decisive and follow his eyes.. His vision isn't limited to hitting the line either. he can read a field in open space just as well. this gif is a good example of his vision for both the line and open field. Elusiveness for as much as he relies on being able to break tackles he's no slouch when it comes to shaking opponents off before they can touch him. Hunt is a big fan of the spin move, and he's damn good at it, though it can get him into trouble as well. He man make very fast jump cuts to get away from low tackles. He moves quickly and with purpose to make guys miss in the open field. His combination of elusiveness and physicality often leads to runs like this where he shows off the best he's got in both regards Balance He runs with his shoulders down to keep his center of Gravity low and it really shows. He recovers from near falls when other RBs would be on their asses. In this play he ends up with his hand on the ground but recovers incredibly fast and jukes an oncoming defender. This play is just amazing Workhorse In this age of RBBC and pass catching backs there aren't as many of these guys around anymore. This gif of back to back tough physical runs is something you'll see several times a game from Hunt. if you want a guy who is gonna be on the field for most of the game, Hunt is on your list. Hands Hunt wasn't used as a pass catcher a ton. Mostly as a dumpoff receiver, but he has soft hands and a couple amazing catches (see the last gif in Balance). I watched 6 games and he caught multiple passes in each and never dropped one. Needs Work Pass Protection If he's gonna be an every down back he's gonna have to get better at pass blocking. his cut blocks can be half assed at times and he needs to learn to get a better leverage advantage. he sometimes gets bullied Route Running He just didn't do a lot of this but given NFL trends, his good hands and his ability to make plays in space he's going to be asked to do more in the NFL. aside from a couple wheel routes I don't think he has ever run a route. I think he has the skills to do it but he's gonna take a while to learn it. Negatives Build He's a little on the small side. while he did fine in his conference the bigger stronger NFL players could cause a leverage problem when he's trying to out physical the defense. it even shows up on occasion in college tape. I love this next gif because it shows his biggest weakness and his biggest strength. He gets shoved back because he can't get a leverage advantage and then shows his effort in getting back to the line Dancing While he gets an A for effort it also gets him into trouble a lot. there are a lot of cases of him dancing around trying to break out from a hopeless situation instead of just taking the yards he has available. Speed Hunt just doesn't have breakaway speed. Think of someone like Frank Gore. He can get you a ton of yards and he's fast enough to get into space but if it comes down to a footrace against a DB, he's not gonna win it. Pro Comparison: Spencer Ware I went into this only having watched one game of his before now and thinking he's an early day 3 back. Now I'll be very surprised if he lasts past the 3rd. Hunt is a legit NFL starter IMO. More than that he's an every down back. I suppose his lack of size and the depth of the class could push him down ala Kenneth Dixon last year (another good comparison for Hunt as a player) but I won't agree with it if it happens.
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