Ben Carson: Egyptian pyramids were used to store grain, not Pharaohs' tombs - Page 14

**Dave Lane** · 11-05-2015, 12:28 PM

Egypt’s pyramids were built by the biblical Joseph to store grain and were not, as archaeologists believe, tombs for pharaohs, Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson has said.

The retired neurosurgeon, who is seeking his party’s nomination for the White House, made these remarks in a 1998 address at Andrews University, a Michigan school associated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, to which he belongs, in a video posted on Buzzfeed on Wednesday.

The church is a conservative evangelical Christian one.

“My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,” Carson – who last week overtook Republican rival Donald Trump for the first time in a national poll – told graduates in his address.

“Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it.

“And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.”

Asked on Wednesday if he still held these views, Carson told CBS News: “It’s still my belief, yes.”

Speaking to MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Thursday, rival Republican Trump said: “He’s informed me about the pyramids. I think I’ll have to put that in my repertoire about Ben. That was a strange deal.”

In his 1998 address, Carson said: “And when you look at the way that the pyramids are made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they’d have to be that way for various reasons.

“And various of scientists have said, ‘Well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that’s how, you know, it doesn’t require an alien being when God is with you’.”

In the old testament book of Genesis, Joseph, one of the 12 sons of Jacob, was said to have “stored up grain in great abundance like the sand of the sea, until he stopped measuring it, for it was beyond measure”.

After seven years of plenty, the story in Genesis says, Egypt suffered seven years of famine, during which Joseph was able to feed the people with the grain he had stored.

Carson has spoken often about his faith, saying recently of his critics: “They say, ‘Carson, you know, how can you be a surgeon, a neurosurgeon, and believe that God created the Earth, and not believe in evolution, which is the basis of all knowledge and all science?’ …

“But I do believe God created us, and I did just fine … And in fact, the more you know about God, and the deeper your relationship with God, I think the more intricate becomes your knowledge of the way things work, including the human body.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...pharoahs-tombs

cosmo20002 · 11-06-2015, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

I dont care anything about the dude himself but his sources and most the facts above are sound. You didnt read it did you.

You're awesome.

Did you look up the rosetta stone yet?

cosmo20002 · 11-06-2015, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

So this guy is a nut I didn't read about what he believes I searched some articles and read that one and posted it. Still the theories he pulled together from different sources is interesting.

Do you think the earth is like the globe you had in science class Saul?

My personal theory is that the real earth is much bigger.

cosmo20002 · 11-06-2015, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Its not a globe or sphere or ellipsoid. A Geiod and here is an image of of the actual mapped surface of the earth.

You're awesome.
What's funny is that you brought this "Earth is not perfectly round" thing up pretty much out of nowhere---no one was arguing otherwise--and you've managed to appear even more ****ing idiotic than we previously thought.

**Saul Good** · 11-06-2015, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

You're awesome.
What's funny is that you brought this "Earth is not perfectly round" thing up pretty much out of nowhere---no one was arguing otherwise--and you've managed to appear even more ****ing idiotic than we previously thought.

I actually feel bad for him. He completely showed his ass and got called on it. Realizing his credibility was pretty much shot, he decided to drop some serious knowledge on the board...really blow our minds with scientific knowledge.

He was going for Bill Nye the Science Guy. He wound up Wile E. Coyote...Super Genius.

**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

You were getting hammered and called out on your BS. People responded with facts and science. You used this guy as a "science and facts" counterpoint. You just made yourself look sillier.

Advice............quit digging.

whatever I have never herd of the guy I read it from a search. Doesnt change that there is some interesting posts. In fact has nothing to do with the fack he is a loon in life.

**Saul Good** · 11-06-2015, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

I dont care anything about the dude himself but his sources and most the facts above are sound. You didnt read it did you.

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

**** no I didn't read it. Are you kidding me?

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2...d-mystery.html

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Originally Posted by srvy

Then who care about your opinion. It just theories put together from some pretty smart guys that he has put together once again explaining for everything we think we know we really know very little.

Well except for you Saul. You are all knowing. I dont care if that guy is from the flat earth society or believes in little green men he strung together a lot of things many people would not know in a fairly short read. That just proves we really know very little.

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Originally Posted by srvy

whatever I have never herd of the guy I read it from a search. Doesnt change that there is some interesting posts. In fact has nothing to do with the fack he is a loon in life.

So you lectured me for not reading his bullshit when you yourself hadn't read his crap. Then, you had the balls to talk about the sources he cited...and there's no way in hell you vetted them.

Spoiler alert: They're all other stupid conspiracy blogs.

**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

You're awesome.
What's funny is that you brought this "Earth is not perfectly round" thing up pretty much out of nowhere---no one was arguing otherwise--and you've managed to appear even more ****ing idiotic than we previously thought.

When I want to know what a tulip would look like in a certain vase maybe I would call you.

I know you have no idea what that is but you will google and try to act as though you do.

And yes it is an gravity map of the earth that is used every day to to accurately position points on the surface of the earth. The earth and gravitational effects on its surface makes it look like a Potato. The Geoid is a imaginary line per say drawn around this surface to negate the peeks and valleys of that surface and to use complex mathematical calculations so we can use satellites (GPS) to map and navigate the surface. This is in layman's terms as I am not trained in Geodesy just a land surveyor who applies this in real life.

**Saul Good** · 11-06-2015, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Its not a globe or sphere or ellipsoid. A Geiod and here is an image of of the actual mapped surface of the earth.

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Originally Posted by srvy

When I want to know what a tulip would look like in a certain vase maybe I would call you.

I know you have no idea what that is but you will google and try to act as though you do.

And yes it is an gravity map of the earth that is used every day to to accurately position points on the surface of the earth. The earth and gravitational effects on its surface makes it look like a Potato. The Geoid is a imaginary line per say drawn around this surface to negate the peeks and valleys of that surface and to use complex mathematical calculations so we can use satellites (GPS) to map and navigate the surface. This is in layman's terms as I am not trained in Geodesy just a land surveyor who applies this in real life.

Okay...I don't feel bad anymore. You deserve whatever you get.

go bo · 11-06-2015, 06:04 PM

ohhhhhhh, you're a surveyor huh?

surely surveyor school taught you to rely on facts like measurements and direction and the like...

you said the earth is shaped like a potato...

how do you survey the surface of a cosmic potato??

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-06-2015, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

When I want to know what a tulip would look like in a certain vase maybe I would call you.

how many horse cocks have your tulips been on?

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-06-2015, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I've been on at least 6 archaeology digs in Egypt and Israel. On one I was cleaning out a side room and discovered a mosaic floor that turned out to be another room. I was the first person to see this in 2000 years. Really cool.

holy shit

that must have been amazing

I'm jelly

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-06-2015, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by go bowe

ohhhhhhh, you're a surveyor huh?

well

he stares into his monitor to try and figure out what the little symbols mean

he doesn't actually get paid for this

**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Okay...I don't feel bad anymore. You deserve whatever you get.

What do I deserve Saul? I am not bothered by anything anyone says here. Am i supposed to be bothered that the guy who wrote that book on the pyramids believes that the earth is a flat disk. Has nothing to do with the pyramids and how little we know about them.

go bo · 11-06-2015, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

What do I deserve Saul? I am not bothered by anything anyone says here. Am i supposed to be bothered that the guy who wrote that book on the pyramids believes that the earth is a flat disk. Has nothing to do with the pyramids and how little i know about them.

fyp

**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 06:17 PM

I could care less about what Dr Carson says about storage for grain and have not even bothered to look into it and dont care. I only posted in here after Lane and Fish boldly stated we know because the Egyptians told us.

A search has not even remotely said this its theory. There is not drawing found yet of hot to build these things nor explanations as to why.

11-05-2015, 12:28 PM
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srvy Fight, build, win! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $-328750	I could care less about what Dr Carson says about storage for grain and have not even bothered to look into it and dont care. I only posted in here after Lane and Fish boldly stated we know because the Egyptians told us. A search has not even remotely said this its theory. There is not drawing found yet of hot to build these things nor explanations as to why.
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