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Hmm I didn’t really read in there how much violent crime is done by illegally acquired firearms.
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The journal of epidemiology study in 2107 showed "tens of thousands of firearms stolen" and stolen firearms are 9x more likely to end up in the commission of a crime. So to simply the #'s if it was only 10,000 firearms stolen that's 9,000 firearms used in the commission of a crime. or 90%. And by definition a firearm used (brandished or fired) in the commission of any crime makes it violent. |
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I am not a gun owner but don't care if people do own them or carry on their person. However if you are open carrying out in public shopping or at a restaurant for everyone to see it's not going to stop me from thinking you are a douche with a small dick trying to get people to notice you are some Billy badass.
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38,441 stolen handguns recovered in California from 2010 - 2021. 28,376 of those handguns were recovered either during a violent crime or as a weapons violation (illegal concealed carry or other improper carrying ie. felon in possession) = 73% almost 3/4ths of all crime involving a firearm (according to this study) were with a stolen firearm
There were 6,954,410 legal firearms transactions recorded in California in the same time frame. |
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The study included "non-violent" crimes as well which just further goes to prove the point that criminals with firearms have illegal firearms and commit crimes with those firearms- they didn't go to a gun show or a gun store or buy it off craigslist. There were 7 million legal transactions for firearms purchases in California alone. Last edited by DenverChief; 06-02-2024 at 08:13 PM.. |
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I’m in the Frazod camp. It’s there, others don’t need to know and I’m not giving off an easy “tell”. Quietly go about my business, keep a wary eye and know that the second you draw it out, you better use it.
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As I stated before, I'm not against gun ownership but I don't see how the stat on whether a gun was illegal or not when involved in a crime matters in an argument about any sort of regulation. At some point the gun was legally owned by somebody and some irresponsible gun owner allowed it to get stolen by not keeping it in a secure location which I find ironic.
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If you have an FFL, you always need to do a background check, even at a gun show or from listing on a classified ad website. The statutory language is whether you are in the business of selling forearms or intend to make a profit. What has recently changed is that the ATF has re-defined those terms to be far broader than they used to be interpreted. They are now so broadly interpreted that the rules effectually ban private gun sales. Those newly promulgated rules are being challenged, though. |
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When you say the new rules would ban private gun sales, does that mean at a gun show or ALL private gun sales?
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Right now if I have 10 guns and want to sell 3 because I just want cash, I can (I don’t have an FFL). The ATF is seeking to change that. |
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As with most things people fear, ignorance is generally the root of the fear. The great thing about ignorance is it can be cured with knowledge.
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