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Old 01-16-2017, 02:27 PM  
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Not gonna say much.. just going to drop this video here so you can check this guy out if you hadn't. I hadn't until today, and I really like his raw ability.

#1 thing that sticks out to me is he can really evade rushers and chuck it on the run. Amazing raw arm talent.

As long as Reid is calling plays, we need a QB who can make up for his conservative ways. Save your comments about how the Chiefs will never take a QB, because that's bullsh*t. If they find the right one, they will. I think this could be him.

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Old 09-25-2018, 10:10 PM   #196
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Honestly Geno had a lot of good things in his college tape. Don't even bring wins and losses into the mix because WV had the second worst defense in the country. We all know mahomes wasn't to blame for the TT win loss record.
It's actually ironic how similar Geno and mahomes college tape is.
Mahomes getting drafted to a legit franchise with a genius head coach who was willing to sit him for a season instead of throwing him to the wolves is something Geno didn't get.

There has been a ton of talent ruined by bad coaching, and bad situations in high pressure cities.
Mahomes is simpler stronger mentally, smarter, and had higher character than Geno. And more physical talent

No comparison. None.

Geno Smith didn't have it in him.
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Old 09-25-2018, 10:15 PM   #197
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Did some more digging on Mahomes.... get this.

Due to his ability to evade rushers and throw on the run both directions, some are saying he has a ceiling that compares to Aaron Rodgers. But, with this unorthodox style, comes a very low floor.

I say let him sit for a year maybe.
God damn son.
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Old 09-25-2018, 10:23 PM   #198
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Mahomes is simpler stronger mentally, smarter, and had higher character than Geno. And more physical talent

No comparison. None.

Geno Smith didn't have it in him.
There is a stiffness or rigid nature to Geno's dropback that reminds me of Davis Webb. Both of them have good arms. But they are not a natural playmaker like Mahomes.

Geno doesn't have anything in his tape that looks like the Mahomes scramble TD against the 49ers this past weekend, but you can find dozens of these type of plays by Mahomes in his college and high school film. He's Fran Tarkenton with 10 times the arm strength.
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There is a stiffness or rigid nature to Geno's dropback that reminds me of Davis Webb. Both of them have good arms. But they are not a natural playmaker like Mahomes.

Geno doesn't have anything in his tape that looks like the Mahomes scramble TD against the 49ers this past weekend, but you can find dozens of these type of plays by Mahomes in his college and high school film. He's Fran Tarkenton with 10 times the arm strength.
To borrow a quote from the great golfer Bobby Jones: Competitive golf is played mainly on a five-and-a-half-inch course... the space between your ears.

Same could be said about QBs in Football. Mahomes just understands what it is going on the field. Smith would try to force the ball into bad situations. (still does)
Webb in college had the same problem. Great pass, great pass, brain fart pass...
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Old 09-26-2018, 08:22 AM   #200
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The only reason this kid could sniff the first 2 rounds is because there's such little talent overall at the position in this draft and there are far too many teams that need a QB in the NFL. He's got alot of flaws. Late day 2 pick at best.
Ouch...
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:09 AM   #201
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Ouch...
Yep. My initial analysis was off and then I watched about every game he played and had him mocked in the first to KC thereafter. February through the rest of the way. Gave pugs the kudos for turning me onto this guy, then I smashed the table for him.
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:16 AM   #202
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I don't know why he still ended up with a lot of hype by the time the Draft came around.
This was a fanbase desperate for a first round QB and he was one of the best coming out of that absolute shit class. EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Mike Glennon, Matt Barkley, Ryan Nassib, Tyler Wilson, Landry Jones, Brad Sorensen, Zac Dysert. Looking back at that draft, Eric Fisher was a pretty good pick.
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Old 09-26-2018, 10:49 AM   #203
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Okay. Let's say that we feel that he is top 10 worthy on Dorsey's board and he is still there at 10. I googled draft trade chart and the chart I found gave the numer 10 pick worth 1300 and the 27 worth 680, so we would need 620 points in draft value to move up to 10. That would mean our 1st, 2nd and 3rd would still not be enough. The Bills pick at 10. I'm not sure that they would be willing to pass on a quarterback but maybe they would be willing to take Alex Smith in the trade? I would package Alex Smith and our first to move up for him if Dorsey and Reid think he's the guy. Hand the Reigns to Foles for a year. If we take a step back, we take a step back. It would be so worth it if he pans out. Plus, we still have all the rest of our draft picks. Who knows if the Bills would make that trade, but you never know. Cleveland traded the number 2 away last year instead of drafting Wentz. And the Bills would be getting a starting quarterback to stabilize the position like KC did when they got him. I seriously doubt this would ever happen. But a guy can dream.
Wow! I actually said trade up to 10 with the Bills. I better bookmark this. Now I can claim to be a draftubator.
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Old 11-11-2024, 11:25 AM   #204
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Not gonna be a first round pick.

You can have your middling draft prospect. That's fine.

If the Chiefs pass on a R1 QB in 2018 - and the class is going to be ****ing LLLLLLLLLOADED LOADED - because they have checkdown syndrome and mahomes on the roster, they deserve another 15 years of playoff futility.
As long as we're calling out cowards, traitors, and losers, let's remember what their leader had to say about drafting Mahomes. Yeah, he said draft a R1 QB, which we did. But he was clearly not in favor of drafting Mahomes and didn't believe him to be a first round talent.
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He was not a Chief when I posted that. There is nothing cowardly about that post.

You won't find any dooming from me after the pick. When he became a Chief I was 100% on board.
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I mean, the guy looks kind of fat for a QB.

Was that what you were thinking of?
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Old 11-11-2024, 11:40 AM   #207
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He was not a Chief when I posted that. There is nothing cowardly about that post.

You won't find any dooming from me after the pick. When he became a Chief I was 100% on board.
Agreed. That was more an example of your poor football IQ, not your cowardice. If he wanted to hit you on cowardice, there are other threads he coulda pulled from.

So yes, this is a score for Clay.
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If Mahomes is there in the 2nd and the Chiefs don't take him we should burn Arrowhead to the ground
I for one am glad this didn’t happen.
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Mahomes was catching shit for his dad bod long before he was a dad.
Lol. Legit proud of this one!
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