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RunKC · 01-20-2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

And yet you'd trade Ford for Barrett straight up in an instant.

Yes I would take Shaq Barrett over Dee Ford, but this isn’t about Dee Ford.

You are wanting to keep Shane Ray and Shaq Barrett, who have less production statistically than Dee Ford, over Bradley Chubb.

Chubb is a significantly better prospect than Ray, Ford and Barrett. He’s going to be a monster.

But you want to have most of your cap going to Cousins/Von so you can draft a G

**jjchieffan** · 01-20-2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

I shouldn't need stats to tell a Chiefs fan that Shaq Barrett is better than Dee Ford.

Of course not. Barrett wears orange and blue. Ford wears a Chiefs uniform. In your twisted mind, that's all it takes.

Sassy Squatch · 01-20-2018, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

I shouldn't need stats to tell a Chiefs fan that Shaq Barrett is better than Dee Ford.

Not as a pass rusher. Not by a long shot.

Quesadilla Joe · 01-20-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Chubb is a significantly better prospect than Ray, Ford and Barrett. He’s going to be a monster.

But you want to have most of your cap going to Cousins/Von so you can draft a G

Shaq and Ray are good players. Ray has the ability to be a double digit sack guy year in and year out. They've just been stuck behind two HOF'ers for most of their career so the production just isn't there, and then Shaq and Ray got hurt in the offseason this year.

We don't need Chubb. Vita Vea would be a better fit for Denver than Chubb would.

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Originally Posted by RunKC

But you want to have most of your cap going to Cousins/Von so you can draft a G

He's not your run-of-the-mill guard.

Here’s the best college OL, Quenton Nelson, chokeslamming and tea bagging a LSU DL... Savage...This dude is a sure fire NFL All Pro. @NDFootball pic.twitter.com/Mk0x9x02my
— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) January 1, 2018

Cousins wouldn't be my first choice btw

**New World Order** · 01-20-2018, 01:46 PM

Barrett, another Denver starter that was on the field when Mahomes gave them the D.

With backups.

Quesadilla Joe · 01-20-2018, 01:51 PM

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Not as a pass rusher. Not by a long shot.

Ford's sacks come in bunches against terrible tackles and then he's invisible the rest of the year.

Shaq is a good all-around player. He can rush too, he got 1.5 sacks and a FF against Joe Thomas in what was essentially his rookie year.

Quesadilla Joe · 01-20-2018, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I think that KnowShit has placed me on ignore. I have addressed him directly several times but I never get a response. I guess that he has realized that my points on the Donks are irrefutable and has just tapped out.

I don't have you on ignore.

**New World Order** · 01-20-2018, 01:53 PM

Barrett is so good he had 5.5 sacks in 2 seasons.

Sassy Squatch · 01-20-2018, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Ford's sacks come in bunches against terrible tackles and then he's invisible the rest of the year.

Shaq is a good all-around player. He can rush too, he got 1.5 sacks and a FF against Joe Thomas in what was essentially his rookie year.

Rougly 150 more snaps. 6 more sacks. Shaq Barrett isn't a bad player at all, but you're going to have to try harder than that to convince me he's anything other than pedestrian as a pass rusher.

RunKC · 01-20-2018, 01:58 PM

Shane Ray is Dee Ford. Hurt a lot and can’t stop the run very well. Barrett is a complete player who is probably Denver’s best option.

But good luck to Denver for trying to go away from what worked. Ray and Barrett are not DeMarcus Ware and Bradley Chubb is one of the best pass rushing prospects of the last few years.

Denver still has to pay Roby, Ray and/or Barrett. And they will want a lot of $$. They won’t be able to keep all of them due to Cousins and Von taking up roughly $49 million a year..

**jjchieffan** · 01-20-2018, 01:59 PM

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I don't have you on ignore.

Got it. You've just decided to tap out and not respond to me. Works for me. Your takes are so far off base that having a reasonable football discussion with you is impossible anyway.

**jjchieffan** · 01-20-2018, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Shane Ray is Dee Ford. Hurt a lot and can’t stop the run very well. Barrett is a complete player who is probably Denver’s best option.

But good luck to Denver for trying to go away from what worked. Ray and Barrett are not DeMarcus Ware and Bradley Chubb is one of the best pass rushing prospects of the last few years.

Denver still has to pay Roby, Ray and/or Barrett. And they will want a lot of $$. They won’t be able to keep all of them due to Cousins and Von taking up roughly $49 million a year..

Yep. You nailed it.

Quesadilla Joe · 01-20-2018, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Denver still has to pay Roby, Ray and/or Barrett. And they will want a lot of $$. They won’t be able to keep all of them due to Cousins and Von taking up roughly $49 million a year..

That's why I don't want Cousins. It would be a lot cheaper to bring in a RG and RT in FA and draft one of the 4 stud QB's.

Quesadilla Joe · 01-20-2018, 02:05 PM

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Got it. You've just decided to tap out and not respond to me. Works for me. Your takes are so far off base that having a reasonable football discussion with you is impossible anyway.

This is the post I ignored...

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Lol. I can always count on this thread to give me a laugh. Thanks KnowShit. You're ridiculous takes have me laughing again today.

How am I supposed to have a "reasonable football discussion' with that?

**jjchieffan** · 01-20-2018, 02:33 PM

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There you go pulling the same crap that PFFT is famous for. You look at stats without watching the game. Anyone who has ever watched Smith play will tell you how frustrating it is to watch him take unnecessary sacks at the worst times. I don't give a crap what your stats say. The eye test says different. Have you ever heard the phrase lies, damned lies, and statistics? Your ignorant stats are exactly what that phrase is about.

Yeah, that one was not much for conversation. But there have been plenty. Like the one I am quoting. I gave a valid take on your post. But you knew that I was right and just ignored it.

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $159611	Shane Ray is Dee Ford. Hurt a lot and can’t stop the run very well. Barrett is a complete player who is probably Denver’s best option. But good luck to Denver for trying to go away from what worked. Ray and Barrett are not DeMarcus Ware and Bradley Chubb is one of the best pass rushing prospects of the last few years. Denver still has to pay Roby, Ray and/or Barrett. And they will want a lot of $$. They won’t be able to keep all of them due to Cousins and Von taking up roughly $49 million a year.. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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