Other Sports 2014-2015 NBA regular season thread. - Page 139

Al Bundy · 05:00 PM

I will update this when the schedule is announced in a couple of weeks, but I will open with the new uniforms for the Charlotte Hornets below.

Introducing the brand new Charlotte #HornetsUnis! http://t.co/MgHy2DcOTX pic.twitter.com/w59MlUvRgd
— Charlotte Hornets (@hornets) June 19, 2014

mcaj22 · 07-15-2014, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The Wolves aren't making the playoffs next year. There is no one left. You are draining $15M on a guy who does NOTHING but win you a few meaningless games next year and if anything destroys your draft stock. The Rockets, Lakers, and Knicks are having a hard time getting anybody because of front office mistakes. The small market excuse is worn thin. It hasn't stopped San Antonio, Indiana, OKC, Portland from fielding competitive teams.

If we want to believe Minnesota is doomed to failure and David Lee makes losing a little more tolerable, fine. If they actually want to win then they should concede 2014-2015, stop duffing the draft, and do what successful teams are doing. Build a system with good players instead of this game of stockpiling assets that only seems to benefit a very lucky few. They have the opportunity to use the Love trade to stockpile a ton of young assets. That seems like a much smarter play than relying on a 31 year old veteran on a team that needs much more than that.

I heard this all before but instead of Kevin Love it was called Kevin Garnett and they are still in the exact same spot. So it's pretty moot. Let the Wolves do whatever they want. I respect them for standing strong and not just giving in to either shit deal. The sad part is debating which turd deal is the least stinkiest of the two turd deals. And sadly they might have to choose between those two stinky deals come trade deadline or get nothing.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-15-2014, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

I heard this all before but instead of Kevin Love it was called Kevin Garnett and they are still in the exact same spot. So it's pretty moot. Let the Wolves do whatever they want. I respect them for standing strong and not just giving in to either shit deal. The sad part is debating which turd deal is the least stinkiest of the two turd deals. And sadly they might have to choose between those two stinky deals come trade deadline or get nothing.

Because the front office blew it. Not because what they did in the Garnett deal was wrong. So trying to fix it by throwing $15M to a guy who does very little to make you a winner is throwing lipstick on a pig.

mcaj22 · 07-15-2014, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Because the front office blew it. Not because what they did in the Garnett deal was wrong. So trying to fix it by throwing $15M to a guy who does very little to make you a winner is throwing lipstick on a pig.

but you can say the same about the two turds the Cavs are offering hence why they havent taken that deal either.

If there was such a big gap between both deals like youve been claiming from the Cavs end, then why hasnt Minnesota taken it yet. Its clear they think both deals are shit and there isnt much of a difference. Because if there was, like you claim, then they should just do it. But its funny youre saying the front office blew it on Garnett then want them to take Waiters and Bennett. Wouldnt that just be Minnesota blowing it again? Many would say, yes.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-16-2014, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

but you can say the same about the two turds the Cavs are offering hence why they havent taken that deal either.

If there was such a big gap between both deals like youve been claiming from the Cavs end, then why hasnt Minnesota taken it yet. Its clear they think both deals are shit and there isnt much of a difference. Because if there was, like you claim, then they should just do it. But its funny youre saying the front office blew it on Garnett then want them to take Waiters and Bennett. Wouldnt that just be Minnesota blowing it again? Many would say, yes.

I never said either was a good deal for Minnesota. I think Minnesota probably blew a lot of opportunities to trade Love a month ago, which is why they're in the position they're in right now. If these are the two best deals they're going to get, I think the Cleveland offer is clearly better. If they're going to play hardball, they had better be really careful to avoid the trade offer going even lower.

KC_Connection · 07-16-2014, 04:17 AM

Stephenson is supposedly going to Charlotte on a 3/27M deal. If that's true, that means his market was considerably worse than many thought it would be, that he really didn't want to return to Indiana (they offered him 5/44), and that the Pacers are worse for it. The Bulls now look like the best bet to knock off LeBron's Cavs in the East for sure (if anybody can do it at all).

Mother****erJones · 07-16-2014, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Stephenson is supposedly going to Charlotte on a 3/27M deal. If that's true, that means his market was considerably worse than many thought it would be, that he really didn't want to return to Indiana (they offered him 5/44), and that the Pacers are worse for it. The Bulls now look like the best bet to knock off LeBron's Cavs in the East for sure (if anybody can do it at all).

The only way Cleveland has a shot at Chicago is if Rose gets hurt and that's possible, and if they get Love.

Sassy Squatch · 07-16-2014, 06:17 AM

Cleveland will get there eventually.

**The Bad Guy** · 07-16-2014, 06:25 AM

Charlotte has built a pretty respectable roster in 2 years. Love what they are doing.

**DaKCMan AP** · 07-16-2014, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Stephenson is supposedly going to Charlotte on a 3/27M deal. If that's true, that means his market was considerably worse than many thought it would be, that he really didn't want to return to Indiana (they offered him 5/44), and that the Pacers are worse for it. The Bulls now look like the best bet to knock off LeBron's Cavs in the East for sure (if anybody can do it at all).

Right now my favorite in the East is Chicago (if Rose is healthy). #2 would be Cleveland, #3 Miami (homer), #4 Indiana (if they brought back Stephenson I'd have them higher), #5 Washington, #6 Toronto, #7 Atlanta, #8 Charlotte/NYK

**The Bad Guy** · 07-16-2014, 06:48 AM

Charlotte is going to be much better than an 8 seed.

1) Chicago, 2) Cleveland, 3) Washington, 4) Miami, 5) Charlotte, 6) Indiana, 7) Atlanta, 8) Toronto.

KC_Connection · 07-16-2014, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

The only way Cleveland has a shot at Chicago is if Rose gets hurt and that's possible, and if they get Love.

If they get Love, they'll run away with it. Doesn't sound like they will, though, if they're not willing to part with Wiggins (and I wouldn't).

KC_Connection · 07-16-2014, 07:07 AM

After the top 2 in the East, I think you could justifiably put those remaining teams in any order from 3-8.

mcaj22 · 07-16-2014, 07:44 AM

i dont like the Wizards chances now that Martell Webster might have to retire. He was analytically perfect in the Wizards offense and changed his game for the team and was a reason you could let Ariza walk because hes the same 3 and D player. Would be perfect to lead the 2nd unit and platoon with Pierce. Without him our bench sucks and you have to trust Otto Porter playing real NBA minutes and though he dominated everyone in summer league I have no faith in that.

We basically lost or are losing our two best corner 3 shooters with no replacements

KC_Connection · 07-16-2014, 08:00 AM

Also just remembered that division winners get a top 4 seed, which means the Raptors will likely get one again as they're still better than the Nets/Knicks.

**dirk digler** · 07-16-2014, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Stephenson is supposedly going to Charlotte on a 3/27M deal. If that's true, that means his market was considerably worse than many thought it would be, that he really didn't want to return to Indiana (they offered him 5/44), and that the Pacers are worse for it. The Bulls now look like the best bet to knock off LeBron's Cavs in the East for sure (if anybody can do it at all).

I am sure Lance is now regretting his antics since it cost him some big money and I bet his Pacer teammates are all high fiving about right now.

As far as the East goes I would rank them

1) Chicago, 2) Cleveland, 3) Washington, 4) Indiana, 5) Charlotte, 6) Toronto, 7) Miami, 8) Detroit or Atlanta

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07-16-2014, 04:17 AM	#2075
KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $1782783	Stephenson is supposedly going to Charlotte on a 3/27M deal. If that's true, that means his market was considerably worse than many thought it would be, that he really didn't want to return to Indiana (they offered him 5/44), and that the Pacers are worse for it. The Bulls now look like the best bet to knock off LeBron's Cavs in the East for sure (if anybody can do it at all).
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