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[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Well, in all fairness, they have C.J. Anderson who KnowMo still thinks is better than Kareem Hunt . . . .

Never said better. I said he was similar to CJ. They're both good, not great RB's.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

It was a hell of a RB class, that's for sure...

It'd been awhile so I suppose the NFL was due, but damn.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Right now I'd rather have Cook, Kamara, Fournette, and McCaffery. We'll see how Mixon and DeAngelo Henderson turn out.

Kamara & Fournette you can at least make a halfway intelligent argument for. McCaffrey is a gadget player. You don't like those, remember? Cook, with his torn ACL, history of fumbleitis and off the field issues? Really?

And Mixon and Henderson aren't even worth mentioning. This is why people don't take you seriously here.

You're either trolling or just a complete ****ing moron.

[Quesadilla Joe]

I believe that the Kareem Hunt you saw the first part of the season was an aberration. A product of Andy Reid's trickery.

Kareem Hunt first 5 games
Yards: 609
Yards per carry: 6.2
Yards per game: 121.8
Total TD's: 6
Total TD's per game: 1.2
# of 100+ yard games: 4

Kareem Hunt last 11 games
Yards: 718
Yards per carry: 4.1
Yards per game: 65.2
Total TD's: 5
Total TD's per game: .45
# of 100+ yard games: 2

[Sassy Squatch]

"Broncos are just a QB and RT away." Philadelphia and Minnesota sure blew that one up. Philadelphia is in the NFC championship game despite missing their starting LT and QB, and Minnesota has changed their starting OL 8 times and is also starting a backup. You see, Knowmo, those teams actually ARE loaded.

You should be infuriated that Vance Joseph is still the head coach of the Denver Broncos. Despite being a defensive minded coach, he took a unit that allowed 297 points in 2016, added some damn good players to the D Line, and allowed 384 in 2017. What the **** even??!? With how ****ing STUPID Reid performs in the playoffs, he at least has 1 redeeming quality; the ability to develop QBs. Vance Joseph has nothing.

Face it, Knowmo. If the Broncos don't right this ship ****ing fast, you're staring down the barrel of a multi year rebuild.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Never said better. I said he was similar to CJ. They're both good, not great RB's.

CJ has 3,910 yards from scrimmage in 5 years. Kareem Hunt has 1,782 yards from scrimmage in 1 year.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

I believe that the Kareem Hunt you saw the first part of the season was an aberration. A product of Andy Reid's trickery.

Kareem Hunt first 5 games
Yards: 609
Yards per carry: 6.2
Yards per game: 121.8
Total TD's: 6
Total TD's per game: 1.2
# of 100+ yard games: 4

Kareem Hunt last 11 games
Yards: 718
Yards per carry: 4.1
Yards per game: 65.2
Total TD's: 5
Total TD's per game: .45
# of 100+ yard games: 2

Want to make a wager for next year?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

And Mixon and Henderson aren't even worth mentioning. This is why people don't take you seriously here.

This is an old argument. I said way back in August and September that Hunt might be the 6th best RB to come out this year behind Fournette, McCaffery, Cook, Kamara, and Mixon.

So far I'm wrong, he's the 5th best RB.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

I believe that the Kareem Hunt you saw the first part of the season was an aberration. A product of Andy Reid's trickery.

Kareem Hunt first 5 games
Yards: 609
Yards per carry: 6.2
Yards per game: 121.8
Total TD's: 6
Total TD's per game: 1.2
# of 100+ yard games: 4

Kareem Hunt last 11 games
Yards: 718
Yards per carry: 4.1
Yards per game: 65.2
Total TD's: 5
Total TD's per game: .45
# of 100+ yard games: 2

Nice cherry picking of stats.

Did you notice that is his first 5 games, he averaged 20 carries a game. When he went into his 'funk' where his YPC and total yards dropped in the middle 7 games, he only averaged 14 carries a game. In his final 3 games in December(not including his one carry game against the Donkos), he averaged 26 carries a game and amazingly, his YPC and total yards shot back up.

It's almost like his head coach/OC didn't know how to use him properly the whole year . . . . .

[RunKC]

Kamara looks better because he has Drew Brees and a dominant OL. The box is always open for him to make plays bc teams respect Brees. He also has Ingram do the real work between the tackles.

RB’s are usually either between the tackle bulldozers or pass catching RB’s. Jamaal was a pass catching running back. Kamara and Cook are not consistent between the tackle players. Neither is McCaffrey. They won’t consistently pound the rock up the middle and punish LB’s.

Kareem is an all around caliber back. He can break tackles better than anyone, he can be a weapon in the passing game on screens, he can be a WR if needed. He also never fumbles. 1 lost fumble in his last 5 years of football.

Get out of here with your McCaffrey 3.7 YPC bullshit. He is a gadget player that Carolina stupidly chose over Marshon Lattimore.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Want to make a wager for next year?

Like what? There is a chance that they pound Hunt into the dirt next year because of the OC change.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

This is an old argument. I said way back in August and September that Hunt might be the 6th best RB to come out this year behind Fournette, McCaffery, Cook, Kamara, and Mixon.

So far I'm wrong, he's the 5th best RB.

Anything to back this up?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Anything to back this up?

I personally prefer the other RB's to the one dimensional Hunt.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Kamara looks better because he has Drew Brees and a dominant OL. The box is always open for him to make plays bc teams respect Brees. He also has Ingram do the real work between the tackles.

RB’s are usually either between the tackle bulldozers or pass catching RB’s. Jamaal was a pass catching running back. Kamara and Cook are not consistent between the tackle players. Neither is McCaffrey. They won’t consistently pound the rock up the middle and punish LB’s.

Kareem is an all around caliber back. He can break tackles better than anyone, he can be a weapon in the passing game on screens, he can be a WR if needed. He also never fumbles. 1 lost fumble in his last 5 years of football.

Get out of here with your McCaffrey 3.7 YPC bullshit. He is a gadget player that Carolina stupidly chose over Marshon Lattimore.

It's kind of funny how much KnowMo likes McCaffrey (I remember him praising him before draft and wanting Donkos to draft him), despite him being a gadget player. You know, the thing KnowMo hates.

Kareem is a MUCH better all around back than almost all of the guys on his list. The only thing Kareem needs to work on is his picking up blitzes in the passing game. Luckily, that is something that can be taught and refined with better technique.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Get out of here with your McCaffrey 3.7 YPC bullshit. He is a gadget player that Carolina stupidly chose over Marshon Lattimore.

I just wish McCaffery wound up in NE. He'd be an unstoppable super weapon for them.