Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach

[rabblerouser]

Andy Reid got depantsed in the Super Bowl by Bruce Arians.

Bruce ****ing Arians and Tom ****ing Brady.

Well, you see, Andy Reid is an offensive genius, and how dare we question Andy Reid's genius in not running the ball and not utilizing the screen pass in the face of an epically brutal pass rush, a patchwork offensive line and a QB with a hurt toe?

How dare we question his geniusness?
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Oh, and Spags? The "great Brady Killer"? They had his defense figured out by the 2nd quarter and he couldn't adjust it. He was Bob Sutton Jr.

[eDave]

Head issues?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Dumbest idea ever.

Reid brings the franchise back from the literal basement and produces a team with a journeyman QB that gets to the playoffs four out of six years.

He finally gets a real QB, albeit with just about every throwing motion issue and a small bag of head issues, and the fan base thinks that after just 25 games he should be fired? After getting us to within 4 inches of a SB?

There's a ton of fair-weather /bandwagon fans on this thread . . .

Again, I am not disrespectful of what Reid has accomplished and am not rallying for his replacement.

But I am very much disheartened by his response to his shortcomings, which seems to be taking more sole authority and responsibility for correcting them.

You have to realize your deficiencies and delegate to superior talent when merited.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I don't mind Reid having flaws.
Football is a sport for specialists. There's no shame in specializing in some things more than others.
What I do mind, a lot, is Reid responding to his flaws by increasing his authority and responsibility.
We have one of the all-time great QBs. We have some decent skill players. We have an awesome offensive gameplanner.
EVERYTHING ELSE is subpar to cellar-dweller.
D-line
O-Line
LBs
2ndary
Time management
Fitness and conditioning
Situational assessment
Depth
STs
Scouting
Cap
Free Agency
Onfield communication
In Game adjustment

Tell me one of these aspects of the game where we rise even nominally above the mid-bottom 3rd of the league?

Our positives cover a ton of minuses. But they're never going to be all of the game, and they're not always going to be there, or 100%.

This is beyond harsh for a guy that went out of his way to defend Alex Smith at all times. I honestly wonder if some of you watch any football outside of KC and the AFCW. If we’re so bad at all of those things compared to the rest of the league, why have we been one of the best teams/organizations in the league during Reid’s tenure? I know we have to be top 5 in wins over that span. 19-6 since Pat got the job. It’s absurd.

I’m telling you, this place has gone absolutely full reerun because of one loss. I’ve never seen anything like it.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by eDave

Head issues?

I love Mahomes, don't get me wrong.

But it's a fact that he threw a lot of prayer balls in college, circumstances notwithstanding. We saw evidence of that in the first game against the Patriots last year with that terrible INT he threw at the end of the game. And again against the Rams.

To his credit, he's learning not to do that. But he came to us with some weaknesses in his mental game. Reid has done a great job of curbing that tendency. I think it will always be there, but he's already better about it than Favre was in the early part of his career. I think we have Reid to thank for a big part of that.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Like most sports, RESULTS are all that matter at the end of the day. Being a regular season phenom is all good but at some point Andy has to prove that he can win the damn thing. With Pat here now the situation has drastically changed...we cannot afford to waste his incredible talent on a coach who can't get it done...we just can't. Lincon Riley or Josh Mccdaniels would be two I'd consider or just try and find a brilliant defensive mind somewhere like the young Cowboys DC.

I think Andy gets this year and the next to get it right tbh...if no change then cut ties and start over.

I wish we had a guy like Gary Kubiak. He proved he could win the damn thing.

Or maybe Tony Dungy. Or Bill Cowher. Or Mike Tomlin.

All better than Andy for sure.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I wish we had a guy like Gary Kubiak. He proved he could win the damn thing.

Or maybe Tony Dungy. Or Bill Cowher. Or Mike Tomlin.

All better than Andy for sure.

Mike Tomlin has a winning record and is a superbowl winner who has whooped Andy's ass on several occasions!!..so yes, I WISH we had someone like him too!! .

[Mecca]

Mike Tomlin took over a SB winner and has had a franchise QB his entire tenure, I think he's very overrated.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by staylor26

This is beyond harsh for a guy that went out of his way to defend Alex Smith at all times. I honestly wonder if some of you watch any football outside of KC and the AFCW. If we’re so bad at all of those things compared to the rest of the league, why have we been one of the best teams/organizations in the league during Reid’s tenure? I know we have to be top 5 in wins over that span. 19-6 since Pat got the job. It’s absurd.

I’m telling you, this place has gone absolutely full reerun because of one loss. I’ve never seen anything like it.

So, for the record, WHICH of those aspects of the game listed was this response intended to argue that we're above mid-bottom third?

It seems we have a choice as fans, we can accept that we will either win with Mahomes balling out and Reid gameplanning on offense so that nothing else about the game matters, or we'll accept the loss, . . . or we can accept that every part of the game matters.

On that 100 greatest games series, when they got to the Pats-Seahawks goal line INT game, the fan narrating pointed out

'Malcolm Butler? Who? An undrafted rookie? The strength of the Pats has always been that, from 1-53, there is someone who is READY to do his job whenever called on, no matter how big the stage.'

This is a radically different philosophy from what we have in KC, it also happens to foster SB dominance the league has never before witnessed.

We have the philosophy of a handful of superstars who we hope will cover for a lot of incompetence.

[TwistedChief]

I once sat next to Marshall Faulk at an airport bar. He and I had a long conversation about all things sports. But the one thing he said that I thought was absolutely ridiculous - yet I deferred to him as an NFL HOFer - was that NFL head coaches were completely overrated in terms of their team’s success.

Yet we spend all of this time blaming Reid implicitly because Dee Ford was 4 inches offsides, because Alex Smith couldn’t locate a wide open Tyreek Hill streaking down the field, and because Anthony Hitchens can’t tackle a dead cat on a stretcher.

Reid isn’t perfect. But good luck naming me the coaches (ex-Belichick) that have a fan base that doesn’t bitch and complain about some aspect of their performance.

[RobertWeathers]

Reid is a helluva coach, guys.

Hes not Belichick and never will be but he can absolutely win a SB with the right talent.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

So, for the record, WHICH of those aspects of the game listed was this response intended to argue that we're above mid-bottom third?

It seems we have a choice as fans, we can accept that we will either win with Mahomes balling out and Reid gameplanning on offense so that nothing else about the game matters, or we'll accept the loss, . . . or we can accept that every part of the game matters.

On that 100 greatest games series, when they got to the Pats-Seahawks goal line INT game, the fan narrating pointed out

'Malcolm Butler? Who? An undrafted rookie? The strength of the Pats has always been that, from 1-53, there is someone who is READY to do his job whenever called on, no matter how big the stage.'

This is a radically different philosophy from what we have in KC, it also happens to foster SB dominance the league has never before witnessed.

We have the philosophy of a handful of superstars who we hope will cover for a lot of incompetence.

At least half of the things you listed. Take OL for instance. Subpar maybe when you’re going from Fisher to Erving and then Wylie to Hunter. When this OL is healthy it’s easily above average. Do you know how many teams wish they had two bookend OT’s like Fisher and Schwartz?

If the Seahawks run the ball with their star RB they win and Malcolm Butler isn’t quite a household name.

If Dee Ford doesn’t line up offsides, Charvarius Ward, a guy that hadn’t even started more than 5 games, makes the game sealing INT that puts us in the SB.

Shit happens. It’s football. Save me the Pats 1-53 BS narrative.

[Hammock Parties]

Literally the only good thing in the last 20 years in this franchise is Andy Reid.

And you morons want him gone.

You brain dead monkey ****s.

[RobertWeathers]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I once sat next to Marshall Faulk at an airport bar. He and I had a long conversation about all things sports. But the one thing he said that I thought was absolutely ridiculous - yet I deferred to him as an NFL HOFer - was that NFL head coaches were completely overrated in terms of their team’s success.

Yet we spend all of this time blaming Reid implicitly because Dee Ford was 4 inches offsides, because Alex Smith couldn’t locate a wide open Tyreek Hill streaking down the field, and because Anthony Hitchens can’t tackle a dead cat on a stretcher.

Reid isn’t perfect. But good luck naming me the coaches (ex-Belichick) that have a fan base that doesn’t bitch and complain about some aspect of their performance.

You'd be surprised what we rip BB for.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Literally the only good thing in the last 20 years in this franchise is Andy Reid.

And you morons want him gone.

You brain dead monkey ****s.

This is the most ridiculous overreaction I’ve ever seen on here. And there’s an embarrassing amount of people contributing.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by staylor26

At least half of the things you listed. Take OL for instance. Subpar maybe when you’re going from Fisher to Erving and then Wylie to Hunter. When this OL is healthy it’s easily above average. Do you know how many teams wish they had two bookend OT’s like Fisher and Schwartz?

If the Seahawks run the ball with their star RB they win and Malcolm Butler isn’t quite a household name.

If Dee Ford doesn’t line up offsides, Charvarius Ward, a guy that hadn’t even started more than 5 games, makes the game sealing INT that puts us in the SB.

Shit happens. It’s football. Save me the Pats 1-53 BS narrative.

So your argument is that you've spent 50 years rooting for the outcome of a coin toss.