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[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Even if Hollywood is back in December it always takes some time to acclimate and get timing. But not just that, we're literally just running out of guys.

Welllll he could be up to speed come playoff time.

[Mahomes007]

You have got to blame Brett Veach for all this.

People always give him the credit when they don't acknowledge all his idiotic mistakes of his tenure, such as the Frank Clark overpay in terms of draft compensation and contract, swapping of that 5th round pick for Darian Kinnard to avoid drafting Pickens and instead take ****ing Skyy Moore (who has been pathetic from day one). Stubbornly hanging onto Moore on the active roster etc. When practically everyone was salivating at the thought of drafting Pickens who had fallen to that point, as he was the most viable talent left in our position of need, the draft after losing Tyreek. I mean, avoid a bona-fide talent just to move up a few picks in the 5th round to draft ****ing Darian Kinnard???

Overpaying on FA contracts on the wrong players like Jawaan Taylor or MVS, or just flat out overpaying far more than market value (Creed, Gray, etc), while electing to allow cheap FA's like Willie Gay and Khalen Saunders go. His belief last season that Kadarius Toney could be a WR1. And Skyy Moore WR2, even after observing them for the previous season. Frankly, the list goes on.

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Originally Posted by Mahomes007

You have got to blame Brett Veach for all this.

People always give him the credit when they don't acknowledge all his idiotic mistakes of his tenure, such as the Frank Clark overpay in terms of draft compensation and contract, swapping of that 5th round pick for Darian Kinnard to avoid drafting Pickens and instead take ****ing Skyy Moore (who has been pathetic from day one). Stubbornly hanging onto Moore on the active roster etc. When practically everyone was salivating at the thought of drafting Pickens who had fallen to that point, as he was the most viable talent left in our position of need, the draft after losing Tyreek. I mean, avoid a bona-fide talent just to move up a few picks in the 5th round to draft ****ing Darian Kinnard???

Overpaying on FA contracts on the wrong players like Jawaan Taylor or just flat out overpaying far more than market value (Creed, Gray, etc), while electing to allow cheap FA's like Willie Gay and Khalen Saunders go. His belief last season that Kadarius Toney could be a WR1. And Skyy Moore WR2, even after observing them for the previous season. Frankly, the list goes on.

Ooof!

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Mahomes007

You have got to blame Brett Veach for all this.

People always give him the credit when they don't acknowledge all his idiotic mistakes of his tenure, such as the Frank Clark overpay in terms of draft compensation and contract, swapping of that 5th round pick for Darian Kinnard to avoid drafting Pickens and instead take ****ing Skyy Moore (who has been pathetic from day one). Stubbornly hanging onto Moore on the active roster etc. When practically everyone was salivating at the thought of drafting Pickens who had fallen to that point, as he was the most viable talent left in our position of need, the draft after losing Tyreek. I mean, avoid a bona-fide talent just to move up a few picks in the 5th round to draft ****ing Darian Kinnard???

Overpaying on FA contracts on the wrong players like Jawaan Taylor or just flat out overpaying far more than market value (Creed, Gray, etc), while electing to allow cheap FA's like Willie Gay and Khalen Saunders go. His belief last season that Kadarius Toney could be a WR1. And Skyy Moore WR2, even after observing them for the previous season. Frankly, the list goes on.

So all other gm's records are perfect?

[redshirt32]

Bad QB Bad GM bad WR's
we are 6 and 0 and doomed..... debbie
JC

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Mahomes007

You have got to blame Brett Veach for all this.

People always give him the credit when they don't acknowledge all his idiotic mistakes of his tenure, such as the Frank Clark overpay in terms of draft compensation and contract, swapping of that 5th round pick for Darian Kinnard to avoid drafting Pickens and instead take ****ing Skyy Moore (who has been pathetic from day one). Stubbornly hanging onto Moore on the active roster etc. When practically everyone was salivating at the thought of drafting Pickens who had fallen to that point, as he was the most viable talent left in our position of need, the draft after losing Tyreek. I mean, avoid a bona-fide talent just to move up a few picks in the 5th round to draft ****ing Darian Kinnard???

Overpaying on FA contracts on the wrong players like Jawaan Taylor or just flat out overpaying far more than market value (Creed, Gray, etc), while electing to allow cheap FA's like Willie Gay and Khalen Saunders go. His belief last season that Kadarius Toney could be a WR1. And Skyy Moore WR2, even after observing them for the previous season. Frankly, the list goes on.

Keeping Moore was a Reid thing, not a Veach one. Glad that you rarely post. This is the only undefeated team in the league who has won 3 of the last 5 SBs on the backs of players he either scouted or drafted. Veach isn’t perfect, but if he’s as bad as you are trying to make it they would not be where they are.

[Mahomes007]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

So all other gm's records are perfect?

No, certainly GM's make blunders all the time. But Veach does get more than his share of passes and more credit than he's due. We were very fortunate to win the SB last year, in spite of some of Veach's decisions and miscalculations.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

So all other gm's records are perfect?

Everyone loves hyping Roseman despite his teams not winning anything in quite a while.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Mahomes007

You have got to blame Brett Veach for all this.

People always give him the credit when they don't acknowledge all his idiotic mistakes of his tenure, such as the Frank Clark overpay in terms of draft compensation and contract, swapping of that 5th round pick for Darian Kinnard to avoid drafting Pickens and instead take ****ing Skyy Moore (who has been pathetic from day one). Stubbornly hanging onto Moore on the active roster etc. When practically everyone was salivating at the thought of drafting Pickens who had fallen to that point, as he was the most viable talent left in our position of need, the draft after losing Tyreek. I mean, avoid a bona-fide talent just to move up a few picks in the 5th round to draft ****ing Darian Kinnard???

Overpaying on FA contracts on the wrong players like Jawaan Taylor or just flat out overpaying far more than market value (Creed, Gray, etc), while electing to allow cheap FA's like Willie Gay and Khalen Saunders go. His belief last season that Kadarius Toney could be a WR1. And Skyy Moore WR2, even after observing them for the previous season. Frankly, the list goes on.

Make some good points. Thank you for the post. Still has been a great GM and Im sure you agree he's been very good mostly.

[Mahomes007]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Keeping Moore was a Reid thing, not a Veach one. Glad that you rarely post. This is the only undefeated team in the league who has won 3 of the last 5 SBs on the backs of players he either scouted or drafted. Veach isn’t perfect, but if he’s as bad as you are trying to make it they would not be where they are.

I recognize that and it is a golden era we do not take for granted. Just feel Veach is overrated in some ways.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Mahomes007

No, certainly GM's make blunders all the time. But Veach does get more than his share of passes and more credit than he's due. We were very fortunate to win the SB last year, in spite of some of Veach's decisions and miscalculations.

Did you watch that SB? They won because of a defense that was drafted/signed by Veach. Jones/Tranquill/Reid are the only starters not drafted by Veach.

[Mahomes007]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Make some good points. Thank you for the post. Still has been a great GM and Im sure you agree he's been very good mostly.

Thanks! Overall he's been quite good, but there's been some head scratching personnel and financial decisions in his tenure.

[Basileus777]

The WRs would be fine if Brown and Rice hadn't both gone down for the year. No team is equipped to absorb those kind of losses.

But he needs to make a move now.

[Rainbarrel]

Never take toddlers to the grocery store if you can help it. Please

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Mahomes007

No, certainly GM's make blunders all the time. But Veach does get more than his share of passes and more credit than he's due. We were very fortunate to win the SB last year, in spite of some of Veach's decisions and miscalculations.

Not picking Pickens stings as does taking Mecole over Metcalf and Clyde over Taylor, Dobbins and Swift. But the picks he's gotten right cannot be disputed and his role in drafting Pat is well documented so instead of nitpicking his mistakes I'm inclined to just look at the results since he became GM. And the results gave been incredible.