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Old 04-28-2023, 06:41 PM  
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Old 12-12-2023, 08:33 PM   #1951
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Rice has been great, except for drops......

..... and fumbles. I am pretty sure he has fumbled 3 or 4 times already, losing 1, in limited touches. He needs to work on protecting the ball.

I know he was ruled down, but if he keeps the ball in his hands, maybe Pop doesn't get the penalty or doesn't get ejected, and that game ends differently.

Edit: Rice is not responsible for the loss. I am not saying that.
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Old 12-13-2023, 10:35 PM   #1952
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Old 12-13-2023, 10:41 PM   #1953
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Players with the most yards after catch this season:

Tyreek Hill - 601
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Rachaad White - 494
Breece Hall - 469
Rashee Rice - 467
Deebo Samuel - 460
DJ Moore - 450
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Wait, after all of the media adulation of Deebo Samuel's YAC this year, Rashee is ahead of him on limited snaps?

That's eye-opening.

I think Rashee has the potential to be our postseason hero this year.
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Old 12-13-2023, 10:52 PM   #1954
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Wait, after all of the media adulation of Deebo Samuel's YAC this year, Rashee is ahead of him on limited snaps?

That's eye-opening.

I think Rashee has the potential to be our postseason hero this year.
We gotta make the postseason first, and there aren't any guarantees we even win the division at this point. We need a lot more than Rashee if we do and I just don't see it on the current roster.
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Old 12-13-2023, 10:52 PM   #1955
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Lol no.

Rice played 84% of the snaps. The next guy was Watson with 55%.

Skyy played 35% and MVS played 34%.

Not even remotely close, and proof that Reddit is a terrible place for football discussion.
Shit man - where isn't?

The dudes with podcasts don't know their asses from a hole in the ground at least half the time.

I've given up. CP is about the only place where you can have any sort of useful dialogue and even that requires you to wade through some nonsense first.

Like I've said before - as the bandwagon's filled up, I've given up trying to talk football with anyone because I've seen too many of them glaze over. "Do you REALLY want to know how I think the game's gonna go this weekend or are you just making small talk?"

Because 99% of folks you talk to really don't want to hear about how we're oging to deal with overload blitzes or how Spags utilizes unique gap responsibilities and mixed coverages to create headaches while sending 4.

And god help you if you say anything more than "Man, the WRs and OL are just awful" when you try to discuss the offense right now. The WRs are the in thing to bitch about right now and chiefs fans have been blaming the OL for the worlds troubles going back to when our right guard kidnapped the Lindbergh Baby.
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Old 12-13-2023, 10:58 PM   #1956
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Rice has an outside chance for a 1000 yard rookie season. 1000 yards and 8 TDs would be fantastic and a big bright spot for our otherwise under achieving WRs.
Would be amazing considering they don't have him run many routes
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Old 12-13-2023, 11:13 PM   #1957
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Not sure if it's Nagy, Reid, or a combination of both, but whoever is responsible for not designing plays to get the ball in Rice's hands more often is criminally negligent. Anyone calling plays ever heard of a damn jet sweep?

Use him the way the Niners use Deebo. Give him swing passes that are essentially running plays. Clear out the middle and have him run a short crossing pattern - same play the Niners run for Deebo multiple times a game. Hell, line him up in the backfield. We do it with Toney - who is clearly an inferior player compared to Rice - so I have no idea why in the hell we don't give Rice a chance to take a few handoffs.

The fact that he doesn't touch the ball more often blows my freaking mind, and pisses me off.
I wouldn't try to mimic the Niners too much unless you want the Chiefs players hurt.

The 49ers system when it has talent in it, obviously works very well but without a doubt it increases the odds that skill position players and even the QB get hurt.

Niners have the strong skill position players but most of them go over the middle and take huge hits in doing so. The QB is susceptible to big hits as well even though he is mobille and has a great left tackle... the rest of the line has normally not been good.

Deebo still gets hurt/banged up from all the big hits and he is built kind of like a tank/running back. Rice isn't skinny but I wouldn't risk too many plays where he can get smashed to smithereens before the playoffs.

In most win games in the playoffs that is a different story.
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Shit man - where isn't?

The dudes with podcasts don't know their asses from a hole in the ground at least half the time.

I've given up. CP is about the only place where you can have any sort of useful dialogue and even that requires you to wade through some nonsense first.

Like I've said before - as the bandwagon's filled up, I've given up trying to talk football with anyone because I've seen too many of them glaze over. "Do you REALLY want to know how I think the game's gonna go this weekend or are you just making small talk?"

Because 99% of folks you talk to really don't want to hear about how we're oging to deal with overload blitzes or how Spags utilizes unique gap responsibilities and mixed coverages to create headaches while sending 4.

And god help you if you say anything more than "Man, the WRs and OL are just awful" when you try to discuss the offense right now. The WRs are the in thing to bitch about right now and chiefs fans have been blaming the OL for the worlds troubles going back to when our right guard kidnapped the Lindbergh Baby.
Absolutely spot on.
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Old 12-13-2023, 11:20 PM   #1959
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Rice is doing fantastic as a rookie! He can be a bonafide #1. His catch last week on the last drive where he caught it between a defenders hand was excellent. He seems to have fixed his drops problem as he hasn’t dropped the ball lately. Fumbles still an issue but we can work on that.
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Rice is doing fantastic as a rookie! He can be a bonafide #1. His catch last week on the last drive where he caught it between a defenders hand was excellent. He seems to have fixed his drops problem as he hasn’t dropped the ball lately. Fumbles still an issue but we can work on that.
Regression to the mean, IMO.

Many of his early drops weren't concentration drops (oddly enough, more of his later ones have been). They were just...well they were just ordinary ol' drops. Shit that veterans do.

I don't think anyone 'fixed his drops' - it was just simple regression. He's playing to the back of his baseball card, so to speak. It just took a larger sample size for some early drops to even out.

I don't think he's ever going to have elite hands - but I think he'll be average to slightly above. And I think that's about where his rate is trending.

He's fine. He's always been fine.
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Players with the most yards after catch this season:

Tyreek Hill - 601
Ja’Marr Chase - 512
Rachaad White - 494
Breece Hall - 469
Rashee Rice - 467
Deebo Samuel - 460
DJ Moore - 450
CeeDee Lamb - 441
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By the end of the season he'll be a more dangerous player for us than JJSS was for us by the end of last season.

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Rice is going to be legit. Not a homerun hitter but a very strong, steady player. I think he can eventually give us what the diminished version of Watkins was able to give us. Good physical play over the middle and strong YAC production, especially on designed quick-hitters in space.
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Old 12-13-2023, 11:39 PM   #1962
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Rice has 6 TD receptions, which is more than than MVS-1, Sky Moore-1, Justin Watson-2, Toney-1, Mecole Hardman-0, Justin Ross-0, Ritchie James-0 combined.

A little over 300 yards away from being first chiefs wr ever with over 1,000 yards in rookie season
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Wasn’t there a weird stat a few years back about how only a handful of teams had ever had a 1,000 yard WR, TE, and RB (rushing yards) in the same season?

I think we did it in 2017 with Kelce, Hill, and Hunt. Maybe the Browns did it one year too?

With 4 games remaining, we have a shot if Pacheco comes back soon.
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Old 12-13-2023, 11:53 PM   #1964
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Wasn’t there a weird stat a few years back about how only a handful of teams had ever had a 1,000 yard WR, TE, and RB (rushing yards) in the same season?

I think we did it in 2017 with Kelce, Hill, and Hunt. Maybe the Browns did it one year too?

With 4 games remaining, we have a shot if Pacheco comes back soon.
Kelce's at 900 yards through 12 games played in a season where he's noticeably struggled physically at times and has gotten no help deep (and until recently, none outside).

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Wasn’t there a weird stat a few years back about how only a handful of teams had ever had a 1,000 yard WR, TE, and RB (rushing yards) in the same season?

I think we did it in 2017 with Kelce, Hill, and Hunt. Maybe the Browns did it one year too?

With 4 games remaining, we have a shot if Pacheco comes back soon.

Mahomes- 3,398 yards

Kelce- 896 yards

Pacheco- 779 yards

Rice- 663 yards


Also note worthy Karlaftis has 9 sacks, Jones 7.5, Danna 6.5, Omenohu 3.5, Uzomah 0.5
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