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Chiefs spending some time with this lil guy
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Crow's version sucks because my brain is constantly in flux haha. I'm not in the group that thinks 27 WRs are going in the first 2 rounds, though I think about 12 is entirely reasonable this year. I dinged small guys hardest for speed or agility and continued to knock some guys down for drops/tape I didn't like despite good workouts. Some guys are knocked for age too, such as Vele (26), Flournoy (24), and Jeshuan Jones (24)
My last version Round 1 01. Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State 02. Rome Odunze, Washington 03. Malik Nabers, LSU 04. Xavier Worthy, Texas 05. Brian Thomas Jr., LSU 06. Troy Franklin, Oregon Round 2 07. Adonai Mitchell, Texas 08. Ladd McConkey, Georgia 09. Keon Coleman, Florida State 10. Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky 11. JaLynn Polk, Washington 12. Jermaine Burton, Alabama Round 3 13. Ricky Pearsall, Florida 14. Roman Wilson, Michigan 15. Jalen McMillan, Washington 16. Xavier Legette, South Carolina 17. Devontez Walker, North Carolina Round 4 18. Malik Washington, Virginia 19. Jamari Thrash, Louisville 20. Jacob Cowing, Arizona 21. Brenden Rice, USC Round 5 22. Ainias Smith, Texas A&M 23. Luke McCaffrey, Rice 24. Javon Baker, UCF 25. Cornelius Johnson, Michigan 26. Tayvion Robinson, Kentucky Round 6 27. Tahj Washington, USC 28. Johnny Wilson, Florida State (probably a TE conversion) 29. Isaiah Williams, Illinois 30. Anthony Gould, Oregon State 31. Xavier Weaver, Colorado 32. Ryan Flournoy, Southeast Missouri State Round 7 33. Devaughn Vele, Utah 34. Jeshaun Jones, Maryland 35. Hayden Hatten, Idaho 36. Jordan Whittington, Texas 37. Bub Means, Pittsburgh 38. Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint, Georgia |
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What would it take to move from 32 to 27 with the Cardinals to grab Brian Thomas Jr. Wanted Troy Franklin but, now hoping we might get a shot (slim) @ Brian Thomas Jr. or trade back and see what is left in the second round. Ladd McConkey? Xavier Legette? What if we get a team to grab Sneed for 2 draft picks? What then? Thoughts?
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Couple quick post-combine addendums to earlier posts I made:
It's always been my opinion the gauntlet drill translates pretty well to what you can expect these guys to turn out to be. The gauntlet doesn't show you much in terms of quickness/route running, but in my opinion it gives you a good idea who can catch, and who can catch at game speed. It's one of the reasons I wasn't as high as others on Jalin Hyatt last year. My opinion of Keon Coleman has changed. I thought he killed the gauntlet drill, so his stock has gone up for me. I wasn't sure he had quickness and speed to separate and I questioned why FSU used him on punt returns. There's a difference between game speed and track speed. You're not catching a football running track. The way Coleman didn't slow down to catch those passes and how confidently he caught them with his hands really impressed me. He's a natural hands-catcher with great size and good game speed. He also showed better quickness than I expected in some of the other drills. We could do worse at pick 32 than this guy and since watching him at the combine, I wouldn't be at all disappointed if we picked him. My reservations regarding Troy Franklin were exacerbated after watching his gauntlet and a few other drills. His 40 went as I expected, maybe even better. But he just doesn't seem like a natural hands-catcher to me. He weaved and he slowed down quite a bit in the gauntlet. Some of the other drills had me questioning his ability to fight through press coverage, run quick routes, and catch the football. He lost his balance in a lot of drills, seems like he'd be easy to jam. He has great speed, but I didn't see the quickness that you need to run crisp routes. And he just doesn't seem like a natural, confident catcher of the football to me. He's the kind of guy who could have a few drops early in his career that mess with his mind. Just my opinion and I could be wrong, I know a lot of you guys who I respect like him. |
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I always liked Coleman. But his stock is the same for me. The problem with Coleman is though his upside is higher than a Franklin, it might take 2-3 years to get there. Too risky to spend a 1st on that so for me he's a value in the 2nd if you can afford to be patient. KC does not fit "can be patient" on that timeline. Let a rebuilding team try that. Give me Adonai, Thomas Jr, or McConkey.
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Is Worthy capable of putting 15+ pounds of muscle on his frame?
Jameson Williams and (to a much lesser degree) Devontae Smith have soured me on the string-bean-body field stretchers; I thought those dudes would be all-world. The guys who end up being studs seem to be in the 5'11+, 195+ range. There are some outliers like Tyreek, but his speed and cuts are 1 of 1, and he's built thick as hell. Jefferson, Chase, Diggs, Evans, Brown, Kupp, Lamb, McLaurin, Metcalf, Adams, St. Brown, Samuel, Olave, Rice, Nacua.... Those are the studs of the league. Zay Flowers is legit, but, got the ball punched out in the AFCCG like a little bitch. Give me another big boy. If you aren't at least 5'10 and 185+, I'm looking elsewhere.
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Man, I agree with you on everything, except for Legette. I understand he had no production prior to this year, but the dude is huge, fast, and explosive. The only potential issue i see is if he can or cannot pick up this offense. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Maybe it's time to get quality over quantity and to move up instead of letting other AFC contenders take a guy that we could destroy worlds with. To make up for the loss of draft capital just get a few nice value signings like Pennel to make up for the roster depth of the draft picks used to move up.
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It's not a question. He can.
It's not going to be a vertical, take the top off role but he can line up and get open anywhere.
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Are there things I don't like about Franklin, Worthy, McConkey, and Wilson? Abso****inglutely. But I like their type for what we need and the offense we run alot more than some of these other fringe guys like Coleman, Mitchell, and Corley. Give me the guys that can run the yard at 100% the entire game. |
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I love his potential, and his skill set. And I feel like Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes can maximize his talent, and help him improve. I wonder if he plans to run again at the Florida State pro day. |
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Would rather go in a different direction though.
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That would be nice. But I don't take the lesser prospect because of hope.
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