Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
DaFace DaFace is offline
Kind of a mod
 
DaFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Donkey Land
Casino cash: $356899
Investing megathread extravaganza

A place to talk about investing stuff.

Last edited by DaFace; 02-19-2021 at 06:35 PM..
Posts: 52,402
DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2018, 05:49 PM   #1936
Munson Munson is offline
Roy E.
 
Munson's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Olathe, KS
Casino cash: $10359646
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin View Post
Yep, I literally made 1K on IQ today. I like it when my IQ goes up!
Nice! And I just noticed it went up another 32 cents in after hours trading to $28.78.
Posts: 23,061
Munson is obviously part of the inner Circle.Munson is obviously part of the inner Circle.Munson is obviously part of the inner Circle.Munson is obviously part of the inner Circle.Munson is obviously part of the inner Circle.Munson is obviously part of the inner Circle.Munson is obviously part of the inner Circle.Munson is obviously part of the inner Circle.Munson is obviously part of the inner Circle.Munson is obviously part of the inner Circle.Munson is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2018, 06:07 PM   #1937
Hog's Gone Fishin Hog's Gone Fishin is offline
Fish are scared of me
 
Hog's Gone Fishin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $60477
Quote:
Originally Posted by Munson View Post
Nice! And I just noticed it went up another 32 cents in after hours trading to $28.78.
I was going to buy another 2k this morning when it was at 25+ and my daughter said not to because I'd jinx it like all the other times. LOL
Posts: 40,631
Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2018, 12:40 PM   #1938
Hog's Gone Fishin Hog's Gone Fishin is offline
Fish are scared of me
 
Hog's Gone Fishin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $60477
Just FYI . I just learned Yahoo Finance has a price target of $ 147 on IQ

Right now its 28.70


https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IQ/analysis?p=IQ
Posts: 40,631
Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2018, 05:31 PM   #1939
lewdog lewdog is offline
Mod Team
 
lewdog's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Valley of the hot as ****
Casino cash: $261900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin View Post
Yep, I literally made 1K on IQ today. I like it when my IQ goes up!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Munson View Post
Nice! And I just noticed it went up another 32 cents in after hours trading to $28.78.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin View Post
Just FYI . I just learned Yahoo Finance has a price target of $ 147 on IQ

Right now its 28.70


https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IQ/analysis?p=IQ
Thanks for this.

It's a volatile stock. And because of this I decided to sell a Put @$30 that expires on June 15th and it's gonna pay me $230. That's extremely high for a short duration option. I don't mind owning it either (if is remains below $30 in the next 10 days) as selling covered calls on it are a high payout as well if I am placed with shares.
Lots of option volume on this stock. Thanks for the heads up CP.
__________________
2024 Royals game thread record 3-0
Posts: 46,105
lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2018, 05:39 PM   #1940
ChiliConCarnage ChiliConCarnage is offline
TACO SALAD
 
ChiliConCarnage's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: yes
Casino cash: $138468
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin View Post
IQ is doing well. It's at 28.00 now. I think this stock follows netflix and runs way up

Added BILI the other day

Thinking about HUYA


All chinese IPO's
Yeah, the market is going crazy over these. I think iq is a solid choice but I didn't invest (oops). There is a lot of competition. They and Tencent Video seem to have pushed past Youku Toudou, the former market leader.

Huya's gone crazy expensive at 16-17x sales. That's a lot for a US company w/ no earnings let alone a VIE from China with the associated risk of not really being an owner. I've owned the parent that spun it off, YY, for a long time so I've just been sitting back. They report earnings tomorrow.

Today was probably good for you big pop for China & tech in general. Later this year Tencent Music and Ant are supposed to IPO. They'll have huge valuations. I think Ant Financials last private funding round was like 150 billion. That's Coca Cola level of company.. I can't remember an IPO anything like that. If the hysteria with China IPO's continues perhaps we should be ready to cash in
Posts: 6,352
ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2018, 06:28 PM   #1941
Hog's Gone Fishin Hog's Gone Fishin is offline
Fish are scared of me
 
Hog's Gone Fishin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $60477
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage View Post
Yeah, the market is going crazy over these. I think iq is a solid choice but I didn't invest (oops). There is a lot of competition. They and Tencent Video seem to have pushed past Youku Toudou, the former market leader.

Huya's gone crazy expensive at 16-17x sales. That's a lot for a US company w/ no earnings let alone a VIE from China with the associated risk of not really being an owner. I've owned the parent that spun it off, YY, for a long time so I've just been sitting back. They report earnings tomorrow.

Today was probably good for you big pop for China & tech in general. Later this year Tencent Music and Ant are supposed to IPO. They'll have huge valuations. I think Ant Financials last private funding round was like 150 billion. That's Coca Cola level of company.. I can't remember an IPO anything like that. If the hysteria with China IPO's continues perhaps we should be ready to cash in
I went ahead and pulled the plug and bought some huya this morning. Chinese gaming is huge.
Posts: 40,631
Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2018, 11:55 PM   #1942
Cornstock Cornstock is offline
Veteran
 
Cornstock's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2008
Casino cash: $9986835
Perhaps discussed before, but I'm too lazy to look back. The scenario is not for you do it your selfers, rather those who work with a financial advisor:

It appears the trend for FAs is into the world of managed accounts vs choosing a mutual fund portfolio for a commission. For example, you can hire an FA to create a portfolio of A shares at a 5% upfront charge with some relatively low expense ratio ongoing vs going into a managed portfolio where you have an almost hedge fund like approach that constantly manages risk daily and positions the entire portfolio for the current environment and charges a somewhat higher annual % based on assets invested with no load.

This seems like a good idea based on the current economic climate, where simple indexed funds may not be able to seek out returns in a higher volatility environment.

I'm omitting a lot of details out of laziness, but those who are familiar will know what I'm talking about. Pros and cons of this approach?
Posts: 1,606
Cornstock 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliCornstock 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliCornstock 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliCornstock 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliCornstock 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliCornstock 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliCornstock 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliCornstock 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliCornstock 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliCornstock 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliCornstock 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2018, 04:31 AM   #1943
Hog's Gone Fishin Hog's Gone Fishin is offline
Fish are scared of me
 
Hog's Gone Fishin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $60477
I believe the vote in Canada for legalization is occurring today. Pot stocks have been moving this week.

You watchin Lewdog ?
Posts: 40,631
Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2018, 05:54 AM   #1944
lewdog lewdog is offline
Mod Team
 
lewdog's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Valley of the hot as ****
Casino cash: $261900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin View Post
I believe the vote in Canada for legalization is occurring today. Pot stocks have been moving this week.

You watchin Lewdog ?
Of course! I am up 200% on my MJ stocks. Could be a big drop or another swing up.
__________________
2024 Royals game thread record 3-0
Posts: 46,105
lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2018, 05:06 PM   #1945
ChiliConCarnage ChiliConCarnage is offline
TACO SALAD
 
ChiliConCarnage's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: yes
Casino cash: $138468
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornstock View Post
It appears the trend for FAs is into the world of managed accounts vs choosing a mutual fund portfolio for a commission. For example, you can hire an FA to create a portfolio of A shares at a 5% upfront charge with some relatively low expense ratio ongoing vs going into a managed portfolio where you have an almost hedge fund like approach that constantly manages risk daily and positions the entire portfolio for the current environment and charges a somewhat higher annual % based on assets invested with no load.

This seems like a good idea based on the current economic climate, where simple indexed funds may not be able to seek out returns in a higher volatility environment.
I'll preface by saying I've never used either option.

That said, I don't see why you'd choose the 5% upfront charge on assets model. It limits what the advisor could choose because not everything has an A share with a front end load. Also, your strategy seems to be a short term thing based on high volatility. If assets are being chosen based on high volatility, it makes sense you'd want to sell those and adjust to a different porfolio once volatility subsides. The 5% up front load only seems to make sense cost wise if you plan to hold over the long term. In that same vein, if you're unhappy with your advisor or the 5% load funds they invested in, it's harder or more costly to switch to a new advisor and plan.

We're not in a higher volatility market currently though. The market is bouncing around on tariffs and things like Quitaly a week ago but volatility is back way down. The WSJ had an article the other day about how the 'low vol' trade is back at January levels. The VIX is back down at 12 from the 30's levels when those idiots got squeezed and popped the vix up crazy high because they were in triple levered short positions against the VIX futures. Maybe it'll change soon
Posts: 6,352
ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2018, 05:23 PM   #1946
Hog's Gone Fishin Hog's Gone Fishin is offline
Fish are scared of me
 
Hog's Gone Fishin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $60477
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewdog View Post
Of course! I am up 200% on my MJ stocks. Could be a big drop or another swing up.
Wow, the vote went through and we got nothing . seems like every time there's perfect reason for a stock to move up it dosen't .
Posts: 40,631
Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2018, 05:39 PM   #1947
ChiliConCarnage ChiliConCarnage is offline
TACO SALAD
 
ChiliConCarnage's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: yes
Casino cash: $138468
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin View Post
Wow, the vote went through and we got nothing . seems like every time there's perfect reason for a stock to move up it dosen't .


Posts: 6,352
ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2018, 05:44 PM   #1948
Hog's Gone Fishin Hog's Gone Fishin is offline
Fish are scared of me
 
Hog's Gone Fishin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $60477
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage View Post



Heh, yes!
Posts: 40,631
Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2018, 05:49 PM   #1949
lewdog lewdog is offline
Mod Team
 
lewdog's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Valley of the hot as ****
Casino cash: $261900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin View Post
Wow, the vote went through and we got nothing . seems like every time there's perfect reason for a stock to move up it dosen't .
Meh.

I got in at $7. I think we see it continuing to move up in the future. There's is a possibility that other major players come into focus with legalization though. It's kind of a crapshoot but a gamble worth taking, IMO. Canopy Growth seems to value taking over smaller companies to set a monopoly type system. I like it. But set your stop losses if you've got large capital sitting there with nice gains!
__________________
2024 Royals game thread record 3-0
Posts: 46,105
lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.lewdog is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2018, 06:08 PM   #1950
ChiliConCarnage ChiliConCarnage is offline
TACO SALAD
 
ChiliConCarnage's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: yes
Casino cash: $138468
Any thoughts on Altaba (Yahoo) selling off a huge chunk of Alibaba? I think they're selling 25% of Alibaba's total shares. They're going to sell off 100 million alibaba shares and buyback 195 million of their own to decrease the gap between values. Seems like it could hurt BABA stock for a bit, dunno. Not sure I'll do anything for now.

I sold off my MTUM shares the other day and I've been thinking about grabbing the new Vanguard quant momentum fund that covers from small to large caps. I've been watching their multifactor strategic beta quant modeled funds since the launch. It seems really interesting. Most modern financial studies show that strategic beta beats the market but the issue has been at what cost. VFMF is their multifactor ETF inclusive of liquidity screen w/ Quality, value, and momentum weightings. .18% but it seems like it could easily be worth it
Posts: 6,352
ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiliConCarnage threw an interception on a screen pass.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:28 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.