Do you still believe is Mahomes and our coaching staff?

[Red Dawg]

I for one do. We have seen them rise up and shut the critics up enough to not lose faith. It was ugly and surprising for sure but the SB magnifies everything for some reason. Mahomes for sure is no quitter and neither is Veach and Andy. We will recover and be right back in the AFCCG for another shot.

[Rainbarrel]

Go join the Bills' front office. They're having masseuse tryouts to bring in Justin Tucker

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

If this is what you're like when the Chiefs are at their apex, I cannot imagine what you're like when the Chiefs return to their middling form. This is just sad.

The Chiefs are at their apex when they win the championship, not when they get close and get blown out in uncompetitive cakewalks.

I know it's confusing so I'm glad we had the chance to clear that up.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

Please tell us oh wise one. If you were Clark Hunt what would you do to do better?

Well, I'd hope Andy would take the initiative to do it himself. But if someone actually has to tell him what to do, let's see.

Considering Andy and his staff managed to miss - this is just one example, mind you - that since Joe Thuney plays guard because he doesn't have LT size, then it's a really ****ing bad idea to put him on an island over and over against lengthy pass rushers with strong power moves who can run right through him like the Eagles have, I might insist he get some new eyeballs in the room.

Since twice on the biggest stage we've seen Andy smash his head against a wall, go "ouch this hurts", and then keep doing it over and over, I might strongly suggest that he work on a method to fix that. Maybe for every big game he should start getting someone he trusts - Nagy, Doug Peterson, Jake from State Farm - to do nothing but design a completely separate Plan B based on the idea that Plan A didn't work. So instead of Andy standing there staring at the field for another 2nd half of a Super Bowl his team is trailing by 20+ points in, he can actually try something different.

Alternatively, being an owner and not a coach and all, I'd ask Andy about his QB's involvement in such adjustments. Instead of getting himself killed running plays that were DOA from the snap, maybe let him have some input on what to run. On a scale of Jamarcus Russell to Peyton Manning, what level of autonomy at the line does Mahomes have? And if it's not Manning level going into his 9th year in the league, why not and what does Andy need to do for it to get there?

And since Andy is the slowest man alive at reacting to poor OL play, I might politely inquire if he can hire a coach who's sole duty is to approach Andy on the sideline when needed and say "Ummmm... you know we can replace him, right Coach?" And maybe an entirely new coach isn't needed, maybe the same guy who manages the clock for Andy can do it. But we don't want to put too much on that guy's plate so let's err on the side of caution.

That enough for you?

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Well, I'd hope Andy would take the initiative to do it himself. But if someone actually has to tell him what to do, let's see.

Considering Andy and his staff managed to miss - this is just one example, mind you - that since Joe Thuney plays guard because he doesn't have LT size, then it's a really ****ing bad idea to put him on an island over and over against lengthy pass rushers with strong power moves who can run right through him like the Eagles have, I might insist he get some new eyeballs in the room.

Since twice on the biggest stage we've seen Andy smash his head against a wall, go "ouch this hurts", and then keep doing it over and over, I might strongly suggest that he work on a method to fix that. Maybe for every big game he should start getting someone he trusts - Nagy, Doug Peterson, Jake from State Farm - to do nothing but design a completely separate Plan B based on the idea that Plan A didn't work. So instead of Andy standing there staring at the field for another 2nd half of a Super Bowl his team is trailing by 20+ points in, he can actually try something different.

Alternatively, being an owner and not a coach and all, I'd ask Andy about his QB's involvement in such adjustments. Instead of getting himself killed running plays that were DOA from the snap, maybe let him have some input on what to run. On a scale of Jamarcus Russell to Peyton Manning, what level of autonomy at the line does Mahomes have? And if it's not Manning level going into his 9th year in the league, why not and what does Andy need to do for it to get there?

And since Andy is the slowest man alive at reacting to poor OL play, I might politely inquire if he can hire a coach who's sole duty is to approach Andy on the sideline when needed and say "Ummmm... you know we can replace him, right Coach?" And maybe an entirely new coach isn't needed, maybe the same guy who manages the clock for Andy can do it. But we don't want to put too much on that guy's plate so let's err on the side of caution.

That enough for you?

So you'd be Jerry Jones. Good to know.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by SmallCock

Well, I'd hope Andy would take the initiative to do it himself. But if someone actually has to tell him what to do, let's see.

Considering Andy and his staff managed to miss - this is just one example, mind you - that since Joe Thuney plays guard because he doesn't have LT size, then it's a really ****ing bad idea to put him on an island over and over against lengthy pass rushers with strong power moves who can run right through him like the Eagles have, I might insist he get some new eyeballs in the room.

Since twice on the biggest stage we've seen Andy smash his head against a wall, go "ouch this hurts", and then keep doing it over and over, I might strongly suggest that he work on a method to fix that. Maybe for every big game he should start getting someone he trusts - Nagy, Doug Peterson, Jake from State Farm - to do nothing but design a completely separate Plan B based on the idea that Plan A didn't work. So instead of Andy standing there staring at the field for another 2nd half of a Super Bowl his team is trailing by 20+ points in, he can actually try something different.

Alternatively, being an owner and not a coach and all, I'd ask Andy about his QB's involvement in such adjustments. Instead of getting himself killed running plays that were DOA from the snap, maybe let him have some input on what to run. On a scale of Jamarcus Russell to Peyton Manning, what level of autonomy at the line does Mahomes have? And if it's not Manning level going into his 9th year in the league, why not and what does Andy need to do for it to get there?

And since Andy is the slowest man alive at reacting to poor OL play, I might politely inquire if he can hire a coach who's sole duty is to approach Andy on the sideline when needed and say "Ummmm... you know we can replace him, right Coach?" And maybe an entirely new coach isn't needed, maybe the same guy who manages the clock for Andy can do it. But we don't want to put too much on that guy's plate so let's err on the side of caution.

That enough for you?

Mods, please change his screen name to the more appropriate ^^^

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Didn't he hang himself with a belt?

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by lcarus

Didn't he hang himself with a belt?

He choked himself to death while masturbating.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Considering Andy and his staff managed to miss - this is just one example, mind you - that since Joe Thuney plays guard because he doesn't have LT size, then it's a really ****ing bad idea to put him on an island over and over against lengthy pass rushers with strong power moves who can run right through him like the Eagles have, I might insist he get some new eyeballs in the room.

It's not that simple of a calculus.

If this logic were true, the Chiefs would never have won a playoff game.

The Texans defense was roughly equivalent to Philadelphia's.

The difference in the Super Bowl was that their opponent had a bye before playing the Chiefs, and the Chiefs were not playing at home. In a league where every inch matters, that alone could have shifted the pendulum over the threshold.

Just accept the fact that the team had a bad day, lack of talent caught up to them against a hungrier Eagles team, and no amount of coaching changes were going to make a difference. The Chiefs were outclassed and lost many of the advantages they had in the first two postseason games. Andy was boxed into a corner at LT and got out of the situation as best he could, winning most of the games after the switch. You focus on one loss and call it bad coaching, when it was actually brilliant coaching that they got as far as they did.

[Hammock Parties]

The Chiefs were 5-0 and averaging 26.4 PPG with Thuney at LT before the Super Bowl.

It is flawed logic to suggest they would have been better off by doing something else, when the only evidence for that was a rather disastrous performance against the Chargers with DJ Humphries at LT.

Again, the Texans were very stout up front and in the secondary and the line handled them well enough to beat them twice within a month.

Sometimes you just get got. When the '06 Chiefs went into Indianapolis no one could have predicted the NFL rushing champ would have been shut down. Was the coaching staff stupid for not going into that game trying to throw the ball all over the place with zombie Trent Green, a questionable pass blocking line and jack shit at receiver?

Nay. You dance with what brung you.

In this case Cinderella turned into a pumpkin too soon. The Chiefs coaching staff didn't fail, they were just down too many chess pieces against Gary Kasparov. It was a valiant effort to even get to the final.

[Rainbarrel]

The betas that want to follow the Eagles around. Because the Chiefs lost to them. So they can masturbate on any Eagle shit they find. Is as disturbing as this analogy

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs were 5-0 and averaging 26.4 PPG with Thuney at LT before the Super Bowl.

It is flawed logic to suggest they would have been better off by doing something else, when the only evidence for that was a rather disastrous performance against the Chargers with DJ Humphries at LT.

We'll never know because nothing different was tried.

And again - it's not that the plan failed - Mahomes and the O line did. Even if there are deep routes that are taking too long to develop you then throw the football away. You don't eat sacks and turn the football over. We know Mahomes knows this and excels at this because we've watched him do it.

This isn't the first time the O line has allowed a ton of pressure. It isn't the first time we needed to employ a quick passing game or to run the football more. It was a coaching failure, an O line failure, and a Mahomes failure. The answers were right there but we did not take advantage of them and we did not adapt to the situation.

[OKchiefs]

https://x.com/jfowlerespn/status/189...75Ho0jf34TlY6g

This is the sign of a healthy and talented coaching staff. Absolutely nobody has interest in our offensive coaches.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Did people forget that Tom Brady and the Patriots were one and done bc they got blown out at home in 2010 by Mark Sanchez and Rex Ryan after going 14-2?

That’s like if we had a season we just had only to get blown out by Bo Nix and Sean Payton at Arrowhead.

And people think that’s not humiliating?

They didn’t get blown out but that definitely is worse than what we just went through. We won 15 games but 13 of those wins came by one score. We clearly had some issues throughout the season.

That Pats team got beat by lil bro from the division.

I think that was actually the Jets’ last playoff win lol

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

https://x.com/jfowlerespn/status/189...75Ho0jf34TlY6g

This is the sign of a healthy and talented coaching staff. Absolutely nobody has interest in our offensive coaches.

I won’t pretend to know the inner workings of the NFL coaching cycle but I’d dock our offensive coaching staff based purely on the fact that we have a HoF coach and QB combo.

It’s like signing a mid WR who played with an elite QB in FA.

Those guys basically never do well in their new environment.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Which one were you again?

I made that meme, noob.

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

https://x.com/jfowlerespn/status/189...75Ho0jf34TlY6g

This is the sign of a healthy and talented coaching staff. Absolutely nobody has interest in our offensive coaches.

Evaluators saw the true offense in week 17 with Wentz and realized the Chiefs offense is absolute shit w/o Mahomes. Also, NO ONE knows what our OC actually does, every time you go after Nagy for the poor statistical performances of the offense (compared to prior few years) since his arrival a couple years ago people defend Nagy and say that is Reid's fault. I think the one thing EB did at the very limited duties of the OC w/ the Chiefs was bring accountability and a lot more discipline.

Also, EB was a former RB, I wonder if we would have abandoned the run like we did in the SB with him on the sidelines, again just not sure the power the OC has w/ the Chiefs to make decisions.