Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

[RunKC]

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by YontsRBake

I know it’s not what people want to hear but I’d bet our 1st round pick this year will be a CB and they’re going to try to develop Kingsley.

They can try to develop Kingsley all they want, behind the proven LT they sign in free agency.

If he is starting at LT for this team next year when they enter camp, Veach and Reid both should have their heads examined. They'd have to be literally insane to go into next season in this same situation that just destroyed another year that could have added to Mahomes incredible legacy.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

They can try to develop Kingsley all they want, behind the proven LT they sign in free agency.

If he is starting at LT for this team next year when they enter camp, Veach and Reid both should have their heads examined. They'd have to be literally insane to go into next season in this same situation that just destroyed another year that could have added to Mahomes incredible legacy.

I would be very happy if Veach goes the FA route instead of trading up for a rookie. There are several good quality OTs in FA coming up.

[Calcountry]

How is our OL coaching? Seems like we have prospects that aren’t developing like we had hoped either. Why get a LT if we are going to put him in there and he pulls a hammy in his first game. Great coaching move, then we don’t see him again.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by YontsRBake

I know it’s not what people want to hear but I’d bet our 1st round pick this year will be a CB and they’re going to try to develop Kingsley.

Then this offense will continue to be trash and they’ll be paying $65 million next year for Mahomes to dump the ball off to Gray, Kelce, or a RB 20 times a game. Sounds like a brilliant winning strategy.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by Balto

I would be very happy if Veach goes the FA route instead of trading up for a rookie. There are several good quality OTs in FA coming up.

That FA list at OT likely looks a lot worse by the time FA starts and multiple teams can easily outbid us for the ones that are available.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

That FA list at OT likely looks a lot worse by the time FA starts and multiple teams can easily outbid us for the ones that are available.

You don't want to develop a LT. And you don't want a free agent.

What do you think they should do?

I mean all I see in this thread is you bitching. You haven't offered a single, palatable solution. You also started posting in volume again right after the game after being silent most of the season.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by YontsRBake

I know it’s not what people want to hear but I’d bet our 1st round pick this year will be a CB and they’re going to try to develop Kingsley.

Well it's not like the fans get a vote, but that sounds silly unless they find a stud LT and RT within the league.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

That FA list at OT likely looks a lot worse by the time FA starts and multiple teams can easily outbid us for the ones that are available.

That could be but in past years it seems that at least one or two legitimate starters become available.

Example for this year would be if Alaric Jackson wants to test the market. A young 26 year old that had trouble the start of his career but is now a very very solid starter with still room to grow. Rams might not want to tag him at $25M and he might want to see what other teams will offer. Would be a home run but would cost a good amount and the plan Veach would probably put in place is to focus on the right side and replacing Taylor sooner than later with possibly a more developed Kingsley.

I can name several others that should atleast start FA able to sign anywhere.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Calcountry

How is our OL coaching? Seems like we have prospects that aren’t developing like we had hoped either. Why get a LT if we are going to put him in there and he pulls a hammy in his first game. Great coaching move, then we don’t see him again.

This is a great point, at this point in the process they need to look at all parts of the O-Line, including the coaches.

It's that bad. And if they think fans are overreacting, perhaps they can explain why "we'll be fine, totally fine" for next year's tough schedule without making some major O-Line (at least tackles) moves..

[LongSufferingToady]

Without a solid LT and LG, the Chiefs are at best a team with a winning record, but not playoff bound. Until that happens we should be happy that Mahomes stays healthy.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Balto

Jonah Williams went from CIN to AZ and would have been our highest grade OT.

Jermaine Eluemunor went from Vegas to Giants and again would have been a huge upgrade in pass blocking at tackle.

George Fant? Tyron Smith? Mekhi Becton? La'el Collins?

LOTS of names that would have been better on a rookie

Half of these guys are not left tackles.

Eluemunor is a RT/G. Becton crashed out hard at T and is a G now. George Fant is a RT. Jonah Williams is a RT now. And all of those guys were dogshit last year.

The only actual LT in that group is Tyron Smith - who got a really big deal from the Jets.

This place would have melted down had the Chiefs made a big commitment to Smith or signed one of those dudes to play LT. Especially Jonah Williams, who was so bad at LT the Bengals committed big FA dollars to Orlando Brown to get him off LT, and then was one of the worst starting T in football at RT.

Which exhibits the point: People need to be realistic in their expectations of what it costs to acquire LTs, and the difficulty in acquiring good ones.

Not a lot of them are being produced right now. The ones that are are diffiult to acquire in the first place, unless you're picking very high in the draft. And they rarely impact right away, usually not even reaching "adequate" play until the start of their second full season.

It's easy to say "FIX IT VEACH." The fix is, well, not easy.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You don't want to develop a LT. And you don't want a free agent.

What do you think they should do?

I mean all I see in this thread is you bitching. You haven't offered a single, palatable solution. You also started posting in volume again right after the game after being silent most of the season.

I don’t want half measures. Hoping and praying a hack like Suamataia is the answer is fool’s gold, go up and get someone who has the talent and go from there. Yes, that likely entails a trade up in the 1st. Sign Humphries as a bridge option. When your OL gives up over 40% pressures when the D didn’t blitz a single time you have a huge ****ing problem and what you’re doing ain’t working. I frankly don’t care if it opens some holes elsewhere like at DT or CB, so be it. You’re paying half a billion to your QB only for him to put up one of the worst SB performances ever. Some of that falls on his shoulders but the team has also massively failed him. They’re going to force him into early retirement at this rate. ****ing fix it.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

...multiple teams can easily outbid us for the ones that are available.

I don't even want to hear this excuse one time, it's a complete and total non-factor. If someone like Alaric Jackson or Ronnie Stanley gets to free agency, this is a Trent Williams type situation. You literally pay either of them whatever the hell it takes to get them to KC. You don't even let them take another visit once they come here. You wine and dine them and don't let them leave the facility until their name is on a contract.

This isn't just another ho hum free agency where we throw some offers out there and hope guys sign. They are signing an NFL left tackle, it's not even an option to wait until the draft. If they want to sign one and still draft one, fine by me, but you're signing one. I don't care what you have to do or what money gets moved around, it's happening.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Balto

That could be but in past years it seems that at least one or two legitimate starters become available.

Example for this year would be if Alaric Jackson wants to test the market. A young 26 year old that had trouble the start of his career but is now a very very solid starter with still room to grow. Rams might not want to tag him at $25M and he might want to see what other teams will offer. Would be a home run but would cost a good amount and the plan Veach would probably put in place is to focus on the right side and replacing Taylor sooner than later with possibly a more developed Kingsley.

I can name several others that should atleast start FA able to sign anywhere.

Name them. Cause I'm looking at the list, and outside of Ronnie Stanley and Alaric Jackson, I don't see it.

I've advocated for taking a look at Joe Noteboom as a potential bridge option for a bit and think KC will look for someone like that. I'd place top odds on it being D.J. Humphries at this point.

There's really no reason the Rams would NOT franchise tag Alaric Jackson (unless they go all-in on a reset year and are stockpiling picks, then I guess you could try to work a tag-and-trade). They have the cap space and will gain more once they shed Kupp. Same for the Ravens with Stanley.

[BWillie]

Can we talk about Juwan Taylor? You can't convince me that when OBJ walked and we signed Taylor the plan was for him to be the RT. They even said they hoped he could play LT or something along those lines. For whatever reason he can't play LT even though when they signed him they thought he probably could. That set us back big time.