Let’s talk about the Chargers

[Best22]

SNF. Big game, good opponent. What are your thoughts gents?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by O.city

If McConkey is out, just rush 4 and play coverage alot.

Saw that the four-man rush had six sacks on the season entering the Raiders game...

then had three sacks alone during that game.

I'd keep building on that. You can abuse their interior with quick explosive rushers which we have a bunch of that.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

They can find skill players easier than they can find a T like that. Plus Harbaugh wants to play that way.

I remember having this conversation with a lot of folks on draft day. Alt was 100% the right choice over Nabers.

You can find good WR’s all across the league now. Every draft is stocked full of them now. Worthy and McConkey are perfect examples of this.

As we’ve learned the last 2 years, tackle is the 2nd hardest position on an NFL roster to fill after QB. There’s just not a lot of humans that bad, that strong, that agile or that smart or all of those combined.

Hate to say it but the years of free divisional titles may be over. Denver and LAC are gonna make us earn the 1 seed/division starting next year.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I mean that would be nice, but how?

Are we really gonna let Nazeeh and J. Williams go full time outside?

At least with Conner on the field you get SOME upside plays. But the whole situation speaks to how valuable Jaylen was. It went above what he was producing on the field. He and McDuffie, much like Sneed and McDuffie, allowed the rest of the secondary to do what only they did best.

I'd at least experiment with it, because they've been dead last in defending the slot throughout the whole season and unfortunately McDuffie really isn't the same caliber of defender on the outside, especially when he's asked to guard taller receivers. Both Sutton and Bowers were outright bullying him at times.

[BlackOp]

I've come to the conclusion it doesnt matter who is injured or which team KC is playing...Chiefs will make the proper adjustments to keep it within one score. If your RB rips off a 30 yard run...you bench him for the rest of the game. Getting too far ahead... man your Safety, one on one, against their fastest player...or just throw wide open TDs into the stands. That works too...you still get the W, Vegas is happy and the media gets to talk about how KC sucks and the SB is wide open. Everyone wins...

This is all part of the rope-a-dope, regular season Chiefs...All they have to do is get on the podium and say "we need to play better" every week after a win...then actually do it for the final 2-3 weeks.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I mean that would be nice, but how?

Are we really gonna let Nazeeh and J. Williams go full time outside?

At least with Conner on the field you get SOME upside plays. But the whole situation speaks to how valuable Jaylen was. It went above what he was producing on the field. He and McDuffie, much like Sneed and McDuffie, allowed the rest of the secondary to do what only they did best.

Not full time, no.

But on 3rd and 5-12 or so, that should be the plan, yes.

You have to be able to better defend against those quick outs and in-cuts that they're cutting us up with from the slot on 3rd down plays.

[RunKC]

How often does an entire division hit on their early draft picks? Looks like the AFC West did this year:

Alt/McConkey
Bowers
Nix
Worthy

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

I'd at least experiment with it, because they've been dead last in defending the slot throughout the whole season and unfortunately McDuffie really isn't the same caliber of defender on the outside, especially when he's asked to guard taller receivers. Both Sutton and Bowers were outright bullying him at times.

I'd be happy to see them mix it up and guess a little. Or maybe that's something they save back as a complete curveball in the playoffs.

Next year though, they gotta get the depth set back up in a way where we aren't HAVING to keep Trent outside after a single injury.

When he's able to move all around, he's a Mathieu-esque chess piece. Doesn't play out the same way in terms of turnovers, but he's just able to take away so many of a QB's quick answers.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I'd be happy to see them mix it up and guess a little. Or maybe that's something they save back as a complete curveball in the playoffs.

Next year though, they gotta get the depth set back up in a way where we aren't HAVING to keep Trent outside after a single injury.

When he's able to move all around, he's a Mathieu-esque chess piece. Doesn't play out the same way in terms of turnovers, but he's just able to take away so many of a QB's quick answers.

Still bugs me that we didn't take Joey Porter Jr.

What a massive asset he would be right now.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Still bugs me that we didn't take Joey Porter Jr.

What a massive asset he would be right now.

Hindsight lends itself to it sure, but I don't know, we had McDuffie and Sneed + Watson and Williams coming off tremendous rookie showings.

I won't ever be too upset about trying to build up the trenches. It hasn't paid off yet with FAU and may never, but he's playable now and you hope it's a worthwhile selection after we see what 2025-2027 look like. If he will hit his physical ceiling next year in terms of strength, who knows.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

I'd at least experiment with it, because they've been dead last in defending the slot throughout the whole season and unfortunately McDuffie really isn't the same caliber of defender on the outside, especially when he's asked to guard taller receivers. Both Sutton and Bowers were outright bullying him at times.

God I hate that the Raiders got Bowers. He’s the best player in this draft so far and it would be an atrocity if Bo Nix or Jayden Daniels win OROTY.

Bowers is 4th in the NFL in receiving yards among all receivers and he’s done it with 3 QB’s and he’s been their #1 receiver since Devante Adams got shipped out.

I know this sucks to hear but he’s the best TE in football this season with Kelce showing age. He should be 1st team All Pro.

Goddamnit I hate that the AFC West got so much better this year

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Hindsight lends itself to it sure, but I don't know, we had McDuffie and Sneed + Watson and Williams coming off tremendous rookie showings.

I won't ever be too upset about trying to build up the trenches. It hasn't paid off yet with FAU and may never, but he's playable now and you hope it's a worthwhile selection after we see what 2025-2027 look like. If he will hit his physical ceiling next year in terms of strength, who knows.

Where we were in that draft, JPJ was the last of the 'blue chippers' I saw on the board.

He was just a clear cut above in terms of raw talent at that spot, IMO. And we KNEW that losing Sneed was a possibility. Porter's play-style was so similar it was just such a natural fit.

I think we reached for need with FAU. Thought so at the time. And I still think we do that a little too frequently for my tastes in the first 3 rounds.

Every position is a position of need at some point in a rookie contract. Just get the best players -- the rest will sort itself out.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I mean we have people out there still upset about our WR room

Well.... Rashee had become a legit #1 and Worthy is now routing people up every single week

And the way their skill sets complement each other is bordering on AJ Brown/Devonta Smith stuff

We are doing OK in the draft still

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by RunKC

God I hate that the Raiders got Bowers. He’s the best player in this draft so far and it would be an atrocity if Bo Nix or Jayden Daniels win OROTY.

When your first season puts you amongst the very best in the league...you deserve the award...not "he did well for rookie"...which Nix falls into.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by RunKC

God I hate that the Raiders got Bowers. He’s the best player in this draft so far and it would be an atrocity if Bo Nix or Jayden Daniels win OROTY.

Bowers is 4th in the NFL in receiving yards among all receivers and he’s done it with 3 QB’s and he’s been their #1 receiver since Devante Adams got shipped out.

I know this sucks to hear but he’s the best TE in football this season with Kelce showing age. He should be 1st team All Pro.

Goddamnit I hate that the AFC West got so much better this year

Raiders aren't any sort of issue until they can find a good HC and QB. Bowers will rot there otherwise.

Chargers are coming and will be a threat but gonna be interesting to see how they maintain a pass rush next year with Mack and Bosa both maybe on the way out

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Still bugs me that we didn't take Joey Porter Jr.

What a massive asset he would be right now.

Jaylen Watson. That’s why they didn’t draft him.

They’re the same type of player. Porter Jr is an outside corner only. He’s only played 25 snaps in the slot this season.

A major part of our defense being so good last year was Sneed and McDuffie being so damn versatile. Teams never knew what we were doing bc both of those guys along with Conner could play in so many different places.

Conner has obviously not been anywhere close to Sneed in coverage. I think losing Sneed has hurt him the most.

Posted this in the draft forum but a versatile cover CB2 has to be our biggest need after Tackle