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carcosa · 11-01-2021, 10:14 PM

"broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel"

These are all words that people used to describe Patrick ****ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ****ING Ankiel?????

Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the ****in ball.

But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ****ing wall. You don't know what the **** is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play.

What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ****ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ****ing ball. But that's the ****ing truth.

If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want??

Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a ****ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.

ThaVirus · 11-02-2021, 12:58 PM

He's been sacked 16 times already. On average over these last 3 seasons, he takes about 1.4 sacks per game. This season he's taking 2 sacks per game on average.

His Y/A is down about a full yard, passer rating is way down, QBR is way down, ANY/A is waayyyyy down.

And that's even after he looked pretty good, outside of the turnovers, throughout the first few weeks. This last month has been brutal.

scho63 · 11-02-2021, 01:01 PM

Our remaining schedule is the TOUGHEST in the NFL.

Not gonna be easy.......

-King- · 11-02-2021, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

I agree, my first thought after the opening drive was exactly that. Here we go again. They seemed to have that thought as well.

Remember how the sideline shots during the game were so fun, they were rallying each other and Reid and Mahomes were over there scheming up new ways to score while the Defense was on the field. Offense and Defense were cheering each other on. High fives and smiling faces even after something went wrong.

That isnt happening this year. The sideline looks way different. I especially noticed Kelce last night, this guy usually has FUN. He looked shell shocked every time they showed him. No one went over to him and said, its OK, you will probably win this game for us. Of course I dont know that for sure its just what it looked like and was an example of what I see happening this year. How the team doesnt seem to be as tight as in the past.

I know the losing is tough and is contributing to this but its one more thing that seems off this year.

Does Reid even go sit down with Pat anymore?

Hammock Parties · 11-02-2021, 01:04 PM

Mahomes is going to throw 45 TDs while being broken.

You absolute yobbos.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 11-02-2021, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

He's been sacked 16 times already. On average over these last 3 seasons, he takes about 1.4 sacks per game. This season he's taking 2 sacks per game on average.

His Y/A is down about a full yard, passer rating is way down, QBR is way down, ANY/A is waayyyyy down.

And that's even after he looked pretty good, outside of the turnovers, throughout the first few weeks. This last month has been brutal.

Yes, and most of those are from drifting deep in the pocket and D-Coordinators figuring out to send their edge rushers deep and keep him contained. Patrick looked much better in the pocket last night, but missed some reads, some open receivers and had some accuracy issues, but it was better.

FloridaMan88 · 11-02-2021, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

And that's why I liked that first drive so much... when you're at the end of your rope frustrated and it seems like absolutely everything that can go wrong is going wrong, get back to basics.

It makes no sense why the Chiefs went away from the successful strategy of that first drive… short/quick passes that were shredding the two deep safety defense.

**Bearcat** · 11-02-2021, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

I agree, my first thought after the opening drive was exactly that. Here we go again. They seemed to have that thought as well.

Remember how the sideline shots during the game were so fun, they were rallying each other and Reid and Mahomes were over there scheming up new ways to score while the Defense was on the field. Offense and Defense were cheering each other on. High fives and smiling faces even after something went wrong.

That isnt happening this year. The sideline looks way different. I especially noticed Kelce last night, this guy usually has FUN. He looked shell shocked every time they showed him. No one went over to him and said, its OK, you will probably win this game for us. Of course I dont know that for sure its just what it looked like and was an example of what I see happening this year. How the team doesnt seem to be as tight as in the past.

I know the losing is tough and is contributing to this but its one more thing that seems off this year.

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

At least part of it has to be that he's just beaten down physically

He gets flat out mugged constantly, and takes a buttload of vicious hits

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

He's been sacked 16 times already. On average over these last 3 seasons, he takes about 1.4 sacks per game. This season he's taking 2 sacks per game on average.

Yeah, can definitely see all of this playing into mounting frustrations... the physical toll of being sacked and mugged, the mental toll of interceptions and how everything seems to be going wrong in the past month. Compounding frustrations.

Getting embarrassed in the Super Bowl, then I'd assume wanting to come out and make a huge statement, just to be a game within. 500 every single week.

Part of the back to basics should be loosening up and having fun... getting out of their heads about it. Playing an underdog role, whatever.

O.city · 11-02-2021, 01:28 PM

I think Kelce is hurt. He got his neck hurt against Buffalo and it's showing.

Mahomes has to get back to winning in structure. You can't count on the outside the pocket stuff consistently.

**dirk digler** · 11-02-2021, 01:29 PM

All-22

-Brackets on Kelce and Hill
-drop 8 + low spy
-Kelce with a nice route pic.twitter.com/trLHnAM92x
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O.city · 11-02-2021, 01:30 PM

Thats the issue. Where is he going? Pause it at the 27 second mark. Why are you leaving that pocket?

Hammock Parties · 11-02-2021, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Thats the issue. Where is he going? Pause it at the 27 second mark. Why are you leaving that pocket?

He doesn't trust his tackles.

**dirk digler** · 11-02-2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

He doesn't trust his tackles.

Yeah I was about to say that. He definitely doesn't trust Brown

mr. tegu · 11-02-2021, 01:44 PM

When everything around the QB works perfect the QB needs to make that play happen. There are too many of these plays each week now. Not trusting the tackles is a terrible excuse.

Hammock Parties · 11-02-2021, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Not trusting the tackles is a terrible excuse.

Yeah, very true.

I'm sure Patrick was just fed up with all the bounces going the other way and decided to bring home the W on this play. He knew Danny Limes was out of juice.

suzzer99 · 11-02-2021, 02:09 PM

From that first angle leaving the pocket makes more sense. Kelce had two guys trailing him. He probably gets tackled before the goal line.

But Pringle made a nice move to get open towards the left pylon, which probably would have worked if the LB hadn't charged Mahomes so hard. Mahomes probably doesn't have the window to get it to Pringle on the pylon from the pocket, but rolling left he would have.

11-01-2021, 10:14 PM
carcosa Thank you Join Date: May 2014 Casino cash: $-256305	Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ing dorks "broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel" These are all words that people used to describe Patrick **ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ING Ankiel????? Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the in ball. But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ing wall. You don't know what the is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play. What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ing ball. But that's the ing truth. If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want?? Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a **ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.
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ThaVirus Play for keeps Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $-1107631	He's been sacked 16 times already. On average over these last 3 seasons, he takes about 1.4 sacks per game. This season he's taking 2 sacks per game on average. His Y/A is down about a full yard, passer rating is way down, QBR is way down, ANY/A is waayyyyy down. And that's even after he looked pretty good, outside of the turnovers, throughout the first few weeks. This last month has been brutal.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-75936	I think Kelce is hurt. He got his neck hurt against Buffalo and it's showing. Mahomes has to get back to winning in structure. You can't count on the outside the pocket stuff consistently.
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suzzer99 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: L.A. Casino cash: $-135716	From that first angle leaving the pocket makes more sense. Kelce had two guys trailing him. He probably gets tackled before the goal line. But Pringle made a nice move to get open towards the left pylon, which probably would have worked if the LB hadn't charged Mahomes so hard. Mahomes probably doesn't have the window to get it to Pringle on the pylon from the pocket, but rolling left he would have.
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