Geno Smith outplaying Mark Sanchez

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http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...-training-camp

CORTLAND, N.Y. -- Rookie Geno Smith has outplayed Mark Sanchez through the first week of training camp, pulling even or perhaps ahead in the New York Jets' quarterback competition.

"He can do more" than Sanchez, one veteran said Wednesday, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

It was Sanchez's turn to lead the starting unit and he struggled, throwing an interception for the second straight practice. Smith has yet to throw an interception in team drills over the first five practices.

It's premature to anoint a starter -- after all, they haven't begun live tackling -- but the early development is noteworthy because people close to the team expected Sanchez, based on his experience, to look sharper than Smith at the outset. That hasn't been the case.

"Everybody gets enamored with the guy who throws a 96 mph fastball," coach Rex Ryan said of Smith. To be politically correct, Ryan quickly added, "But Mark certainly has a good enough arm to play in this league."

It didn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Sanchez declined to say whether he believes he's leading the competition.

"I don't know, ask the coaches," he said. "I feel good, though. I feel confident. I feel like I'm playing really well."

Smith has sparkled with his accuracy, but he tends to hold the ball too long when facing pressure, according to Ryan. That, he said, "concerns me a little bit." The organization knows what it has in Sanchez, who was benched late last season.

Privately, the hope is that Smith can master the offense and seize the starting job. Even if he doesn't win it, Smith will be involved in the offense. Even though Tim Tebow is gone, Ryan said he remains committed to running the ball from the quarterback position.

He's intrigued by Smith's running ability, which would give the Jets a run-pass option at the quarterback position. Ryan acknowledged the plan, admitting last year's strategy under former coordinator Tony Sparano was ill-conceived. They never trusted Tebow to throw the ball. Whenever they used him, it usually was a read-option running play between the tackles.

"I think if that's the only thing you do with that position, why don't you just leave a running back in, a guy that's trained to do it?" Ryan said, second-guessing last season's approach. "If you're going to have a quarterback do it, like a (Colin) Kaepernick or somebody like that, it becomes more of a weapon because you know it's not just Tebow coming and he's going to run the ball. That's kind of where we were last year."

Ryan laughed when asked if he plans to use the Wildcat (or read-option) more than last year. Tebow finished with 32 rushes, averaging only 3.2 yards per carry.

"We probably will because, you guys say it, we never used it," he said. "So I would say, yeah, I think that will be part of what we do."

In the Wildcat, the ball is snapped to a nonquarterback. In those situations, the Jets can utilize wide receiver Jeremy Kerley or a running back, probably Bilal Powell. When Smith is on the field, either as the starter or a change-of-pace quarterback, they can employ the read-option.

The presence of new quarterbacks coach David Lee, one of the Wildcat innovators, is another reason the team is planning to use it. Sanchez said he could run the read-option, but there's little chance of that happening. His running ability will forever be linked to the "Butt Fumble," when he ran into a lineman's rear end last season.

Smith's athleticism could be a factor in the quarterback decision. Sanchez acknowledged that Smith is "very talented when it comes to that stuff. But I can't worry about it." Sanchez joked about the quarterback competition, mentioning that he sees more front-office types on the field for practice, scribbling notes during routine drills.

He said it reminds him of his rookie year in 2009, when he won the job against Kellen Clemens.

"For you (reporters), it's your job, but it's funny to see everybody else charting stuff," he said. "Everything is under scrutiny. There's a ton of pressure. That's the way you like it; that's the way you play this position."

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by scott free

We've all witnessed this teams awful, sordid record with quarterbacks for way too long now... but do you really think, after all thats happened... that if a REAL, EXCITING young stud like Griffin or Luck had been available to Clark in recent past drafts that we wouldnt have gone after them, short of selling the teams soul for the next ten years?

Some of you act like Clark etc GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to keep us down, i dont buy that stuff for one freaking second... the more the Chiefs win, the better off he is... please stop with this "its only about saving money" BS.

He wipes his ass with money, i bet he wants a winner to make Daddy proud.

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then it's a pipe dream.

And I never said anything about keeping the Chiefs down. I also never said anything about saving money. It's about mitigating risk.

Luck and Griffin have polluted QB evaluation. It's not about whether the team would take the risk and do that. I'm sure they would, if someone of that caliber fell into their lap. Unfortunately players like that are extremely rare, and 9 times out of 10 if you're looking for a QB in the first you're left evaluating names like Matt Stafford and Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers and Ryan Tannehill and Mark Sanchez. Risky players, in other words.

This franchise? This franchise doesn't even get that far. There's no decision to make, not in the draft. Because they make trades for the Alex Smiths of the world in March. Or Matt Cassel. Or Trent Green. Because that's the safe approach. A known, if limited, quantity. Good enough to get by. But no potential for greatness. Because, let's face it, if these players had a potential for greatness, they wouldn't be available. Stories like Drew Brees are as rare as finding an Andrew Luck in the draft.

Can we win with an Alex Smith? Sure. Guys like that do back their way into the Superbowl from time to time. He should be "good enough" to keep the team competitive, albeit not perennially championship caliber. A safe choice that the fanbase will like, because he's a good guy who probably won't hurt the team with his play.

That's the script here, folks. We've seen it for, literally, decades.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then it's a pipe dream.

And I never said anything about keeping the Chiefs down. I also never said anything about saving money. It's about mitigating risk.

Luck and Griffin have polluted QB evaluation. It's not about whether the team would take the risk and do that. I'm sure they would, if someone of that caliber fell into their lap. Unfortunately players like that are extremely rare, and 9 times out of 10 if you're looking for a QB in the first you're left evaluating names like Matt Stafford and Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers and Ryan Tannehill and Mark Sanchez. Risky players, in other words.

This franchise? This franchise doesn't even get that far. There's no decision to make, not in the draft. Because they make trades for the Alex Smiths of the world in March. Or Matt Cassel. Or Trent Green. Because that's the safe approach. A known, if limited, quantity. Good enough to get by. But no potential for greatness. Because, let's face it, if these players had a potential for greatness, they wouldn't be available. Stories like Drew Brees are as rare as finding an Andrew Luck in the draft.

Can we win with an Alex Smith? Sure. Guys like that do back their way into the Superbowl from time to time. He should be "good enough" to keep the team competitive, albeit not perennially championship caliber. A safe choice that the fanbase will like, because he's a good guy who probably won't hurt the team with his play.

That's the script here, folks. We've seen it for, literally, decades.

Been away from the planet a while, but this is what keeps me coming back. Stellar post.

[BigMeatballDave]

If RG3 and Luck had been available this year, there is NO WAY the Chiefs pass on them.

No ****ing way.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

No he was not the best we could get.

THAT IS ****ING HORSE SHIT AND I'M TIRED OF ****ING HEARING IT.

It's the TRUE False Narrative in this discussion. Believe nothing otherwise.

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

If RG3 and Luck had been available this year, there is NO WAY the Chiefs pass on them.

No ****ing way.

hahahaha, you obviously have learned NOTHING about this franchise.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

I don't think Alex Smith would have been the answer either. I know you guys don't wanna hear that.

FYP

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

If RG3 and Luck had been available this year, there is NO WAY the Chiefs pass on them.

No ****ing way.

We needed a RT

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

And the ball never touched the ground at Alex Smiths Pro Day.
BFD.

Terrible comparison
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[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Bray.
Is that not an attempt?
If we would have used a 3rd on him, I guess it would have answered all our prayers.

If Bray was going be the intended attempt then they should have drafted him in the first three rounds. He could have gone to any other team as an UDFA of his choice and the teams wouldn't have any risk to just to have him at camp. He doesn't get first team reps and accolades that would have gone with being picked QBotf.

This is not an attempt by the organization to go out of their way to bring us a QB but it's just damn luck he wasn't drafted by any other team and chose to try out for the Chiefs.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

It's the TRUE False Narrative in this discussion. Believe nothing otherwise.



hahahaha, you obviously have learned NOTHING about this franchise.

There is a reason that he didnt answer when asked who the better QB available to us was.
Its the same reason you wont.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Terrible comparison
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Its a QB looking great in a non contact situation.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I'm interested in hearing a better option available as well. They couldn't make one in a lab. Geno obviously wasn't the guy some of us thought he was.

[Ace Gunner]

holy shit the vaginas are out in full force this weekend

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by PGM

I'm interested in hearing a better option available as well. They couldn't make one in a lab. Geno obviously wasn't the guy some of us thought he was.

No. You dodged a bullet there. Your new regime is making a lot of what appear to be good decisions and right football moves.

[BigChiefFan]

If Geno becomes a legitimate franchise QB, the Chiefs will have screwed the pooch, yet again.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by vailpass

No. You dodged a bullet there. Your new regime is making a lot of what appear to be good decisions and right football moves.

Are you sure about that? Eric Fisher doesn't sound like he is tearing it up at camp to justify 1.1 pick so far. FN BS if he doesn't turn out to be a stud.