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Old 01-01-2013, 10:16 AM  
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Geno Smith is not worth the 1st overall pick
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:51 PM   #181
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Not really a fair rebuttal here. By this logic, we would all be angry we traded up to get RGIII or took Russell Wilson when we had a chance. Which looking back, we would've gladly done either. A guy who's actually proven something in the NFL is worth far far more than a guy who's in this year's draft.


Cousins doesn't have an extensive track record but he's played in the League and shown, in limited time, he can play. We may decide to go another direction but Cousins has a lot of value right now especially given his low salary and low mileage. A deal for him would certainly cost us our #2 and #3 picks this year and that may not be enough for Washington to ship him off.
What exactly has Cousins proven?

Jamarcus Russell put together a few good quarters, too. Matt Cassel put together a few good GAMES.

Want either one of them?
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:52 PM   #182
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meanwhile instead of buying high and selling low (see Cassel, Grbac, Bono) we could be buying low and selling high when we draft Geno Smith and Tyler Bray.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:53 PM   #183
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Do you think cousins will be better in the NFL than Geno?
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:54 PM   #184
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So let's give up HALF A DRAFT to draft a guy that's basically a carbon copy of Ricky Stanzi.

Brilliant!
Exactly. I dunno how many times I saw the comparisons of Stanzi and Cousins coming out of college.

I will be the first to admit, I know very little of Stanzi other than he won a decent amount of games at Iowa, but I watched a lot of Cousins last year and he certainly doesn't look like a high ceiling type of guy. Hence he got drafted where he did.

This is not Russel Wilson who got looked over due to size. Wilson is an athletic mofo who was great at Wisconsin.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:54 PM   #185
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That's what it would take short of ransom Washington will use to extort for Cousins in order to make up for picks lost. That the Chiefs have no earthly idea whom at QB to select with the #1 overall is a very very ominous sign.

This 2013 crop looks more like Chad Pennington, Cade McNown, Weeden and Josh Freeman level prospects.
Kirk Cousins has thrown fewer than 50 passes in the NFL as a rookie, just a year after he was a fourth-round pick. He only started one game this season, against the god-awful Cleveland Browns (against whom he was OK). His other experience came against defenses game-planned to defend the dual-threat capabilities of RG3.

Considering the likely asking price for Cousins, he carries incredible risk. More than drafting Geno Smith or Mike Glennon at No. 1. More than drafting Luke Joekel at No. 1 and hoping someone you want is still left at No. 33.

The Chiefs probably have 'no earthly idea' who to select for a number of reasons:

1) They currently have no head coach and no offense.
2) The GM situation is in upheaval
3) We're still months away from the draft, which means combines and interviews and pro days haven't been conducted yet.

If it was 3 days before the draft and the mess was still this jumbled, them having 'no earthly idea' might mean something. 3 months out, it means absolutely nothing.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:55 PM   #186
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This year has really exposed the crazies we have as fans...Cousins has 1 good game and all of a sudden he's ****ing Joe Montana. This is becoming pathetic
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:56 PM   #187
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This year has really exposed the crazies we have as fans...Cousins has 1 good game and all of a sudden he's ****ing Joe Montana. This is becoming pathetic
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That's what it would take short of ransom Washington will use to extort for Cousins in order to make up for picks lost. That the Chiefs have no earthly idea whom at QB to select with the #1 overall is a very very ominous sign.

This 2013 crop looks more like Chad Pennington, Cade McNown, Weeden and Josh Freeman level prospects.
Chad Pennington, Cade McNown, Weeden, and Josh Freeman were 4th rounders with terrible pocket presence and a weak arm?

The Skins are putting out the high price so someone will foolishly offer them a 1st rounder. They'll take the first deal like that they can get.

The team who trades for Cousins is getting Matt Cassel. Congrats! You just shat away another 4 NFL seasons!
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Exactly. I dunno how many times I saw the comparisons of Stanzi and Cousins coming out of college.

I will be the first to admit, I know very little of Stanzi other than he won a decent amount of games at Iowa, but I watched a lot of Cousins last year and he certainly doesn't look like a high ceiling type of guy. Hence he got drafted where he did.

This is not Russel Wilson who got looked over due to size. Wilson is an athletic mofo who was great at Wisconsin.
Both Stanzi and Cousins were game managers that played in run-heavy playaction offenses and supported by excellent defenses. Nearly identical in every way.
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Kirk Cousins has thrown fewer than 50 passes in the NFL as a rookie, just a year after he was a fourth-round pick. He only started one game this season, against the god-awful Cleveland Browns (against whom he was OK). His other experience came against defenses game-planned to defend the dual-threat capabilities of RG3.

Considering the likely asking price for Cousins, he carries incredible risk. More than drafting Geno Smith or Mike Glennon at No. 1. More than drafting Luke Joekel at No. 1 and hoping someone you want is still left at No. 33.

The Chiefs probably have 'no earthly idea' who to select for a number of reasons:

1) They currently have no head coach and no offense.
2) The GM situation is in upheaval
3) We're still months away from the draft, which means combines and interviews and pro days haven't been conducted yet.

If it was 3 days before the draft and the mess was still this jumbled, them having 'no earthly idea' might mean something. 3 months out, it means absolutely nothing.
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Exactly. I dunno how many times I saw the comparisons of Stanzi and Cousins coming out of college.

I will be the first to admit, I know very little of Stanzi other than he won a decent amount of games at Iowa, but I watched a lot of Cousins last year and he certainly doesn't look like a high ceiling type of guy. Hence he got drafted where he did.

This is not Russel Wilson who got looked over due to size. Wilson is an athletic mofo who was great at Wisconsin.
I love Google. Here's a sample what was said about Cousins JUST a year ago. Has he done ANYTHING to disprove this (No, the answer is NO).

From NFL.com
He is an accurate and safe thrower who knows how to pick his spots. He is a good athlete who can make plays on the run, but is not going to run past many NFL defenders. A safe pick as a backup option.

Cousins is widely considered to be a game manager type at the next level. He makes good decisions with the ball but has not shown he can make the flash plays to move the offense and win games for his team at the next level. He will need talent around him to succeed, which limits his value.

From ProFootballWeekly
Has a narrow frame susceptible to taking a pounding. Can be too cerebral and mechanical with his reads. Has displayed a tendency to overthink the game, resulting in holding the ball too long. Average ball velocity — ball will flutter and appear to die outside the numbers if he cannot step into it. Lacks ideal arm talent to rip it deep. Not a scrambler and cannot improvise or create many plays when the pocket moves. Many throws are simple and predetermined.
Summary:

Has the intangibles and intelligence to develop into a highly efficient, dink-and-dunk, rhythm passer. Resemblance to 49ers QB Alex Smith and must continue developing physically to survive the toll of an NFL season. Could thrive with crisp coaching and confidence-building play-calling in a precision passing game such as that of the Texans, Redskins, Patriots or 49ers.
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