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[Reaper16]

Last thread has well over 10,000 replies. Its body is breaking down like The Undertaker's. Seeing as we might have crossed the threshold into a new era in the business, here's a fresh new thread.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I, for one, am convinced by this argument.

Como is half a reerun, I wouldn't worry too much. It's actually better if his logic isn't on your side.

The heels are cheered because they do a damn good job with their roles and over time the fans gain a great appreciation for it. Plus, everyone loves a good anti-hero. Bray Wyatt is obviously helped by the fact that a large percentage of fans will cheer anyone against Cena. At this point, Cena would face a divided crowd if he wrestled Hitler.

People cheer the Shield because they are ****ing awesome. It's been a long time since we have seen a three-man unit that worked perfectly as a team. Plus, two of the guys (Ambrose and Rollins) had long successful Indy careers so they came in very polished. Reigns is just a freak of nature.

Lastly, anyone that thinks Danielson (or Daniel Bryan if you like reeruned copyrighted WWE names) isn't great is just a ****ing idiot. The guy has been great since the very first ROH show and he earned his spot in WWE.

I can't wait until Sammi Zayn (El Generico) gets the call up. He is another guy that the steroid freak loving homos will hate because he isn't all that big, but he is great nonetheless. He is tearing up NXT now so hopefully he gets called up by the summer.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Barrett is one of like 6 guys on the whole roster that has mic skills and some sort of in ring skills. There aren't many guys that can talk and wrestle in the WWE. It's either one or the other.

Who can currently cut a promo in the WWE? Without a manager.

Barrett
Sandow
Triple H
The Shield
Bray Wyatt

Can you think of anyone else that is good on the microphone? The two top faces Cena and Bryan can't cut a ****ing good promo to save their lives. Never could, never will. They are over but they can't talk themselves out of a paper bag. That is exactly why Reaper had the post earlier saying the Faces are stale with no character. it's because they can't ****ing talk.

There usually isn't more than 5 or 6 great promo guys in the company at one time in any era. Even the Attitude era, most of the entertainment was from the crazy storylines, not necessarily the promos. They had some great promo guys back then (Austin, Rock, Mankind on occasion, HBK) but there are great promo guys now, like you listed. Bray Wyatt is on another level right now compared to anyone else. Once Ambrose gets more promo time alone, people will see how great he is on the mic.

[keg in kc]

I thought they did the shield beat down last night the best way they could. Having half the roster beat them doesn't leave them looking weak at all, as opposed to evolution just sauntering out there by themselves and beating them down (that's how you'd start a burial...).

[mcaj22]

yea but I also never thought in a million years that the 3MB JOB Squad would be part of a main event at a WWE Raw show lol

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

Did Cena not pose with you at one of you House shows or refuse to give you his autograph when you were younger?

It's pretty apparent that you have an abnormal dislike for him...

so me calling out his bullshit is having an "abnormal dislike" for him.....ok.

I used to like Cena when his character had a bit of bite to it and wasn't so stale, goofy, and forced down our throats and he'd actually put people over and give them a rub...not guys like Orton, Punk, and Bryan who are already made.

He can go in the ring that's for sure...continue to make your dumb little jokes though and make stupid generalizations.

[Jerm]

Just for the record...I used to call HHH for the same shit and hated him for the same reasons.

However now I quite like his new character and how he's being used and like a lot of the decisions he's been making with the product.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Jerm

so me calling out his bullshit is having an "abnormal dislike" for him.....ok.

I used to like Cena when his character had a bit of bite to it and wasn't so stale, goofy, and forced down our throats and he'd actually put people over and give them a rub...not guys like Orton, Punk, and Bryan who are already made.

He can go in the ring that's for sure...continue to make your dumb little jokes though and make stupid generalizations.

You really should be blaming Stephanie McMahon. She's been responsible for his character from day 1 and has been running creative for YEARS. All the things you hate about cena...She's responsible for all of it.

You may be the only person I've ever seen say 'he can go' in the ring, too. While good workers can have good matches with him he's much more of a character than a worker himself, with his 5 moves of doom that even he jokes about. But that's a whole other topic.

I think it's really sad in a way that he has been and will forever be the face of a decade of wrestling, with other workers out there more skilled both on the Mic and in the ring. But he was the 'prototype' the McMahon's chose.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

You really should be blaming Stephanie McMahon. She's been responsible for his character from day 1 and has been running creative for YEARS. All the things you hate about cena...She's responsible for all of it.

You may be the only person I've ever seen say 'he can go' in the ring, too. While good workers can have good matches with him he's much more of a character than a worker himself, with his 5 moves of doom that even he jokes about. But that's a whole other topic.

I think it's really sad in a way that he has been and will forever be the face of a decade of wrestling, with other workers out there more skilled both on the Mic and in the ring. But he was the 'prototype' the McMahon's chose.

This.....Cena is exactly what WWE wants him to be.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Jerm

so me calling out his bullshit is having an "abnormal dislike" for him.....ok.

I used to like Cena when his character had a bit of bite to it and wasn't so stale, goofy, and forced down our throats and he'd actually put people over and give them a rub...not guys like Orton, Punk, and Bryan who are already made.

He can go in the ring that's for sure...continue to make your dumb little jokes though and make stupid generalizations.

I say that because it seems almost every one of your posts seems to be about hating on John Cena. Little else...

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Barrett is one of like 6 guys on the whole roster that has mic skills and some sort of in ring skills. There aren't many guys that can talk and wrestle in the WWE. It's either one or the other.

Who can currently cut a promo in the WWE? Without a manager.

Barrett
Sandow
Triple H
The Shield
Bray Wyatt

Can you think of anyone else that is good on the microphone? The two top faces Cena and Bryan can't cut a ****ing good promo to save their lives. Never could, never will. They are over but they can't talk themselves out of a paper bag. That is exactly why Reaper had the post earlier saying the Faces are stale with no character. it's because they can't ****ing talk.

We'll have to agree to disagree on Barrett....I find him boring, almost repetitive.

The rest I will agree with you in regards to mic work.

My biggest beef with Triple H is bringing back all his less-talented Degeneration X co-horts like Billy Gunn and Road Dogg, Batista...etc

If he is going to bring back friends....let Shawn Michaels do the mic work.

As for Cena.....kick him to the curb and see what happens to $$'s, you know the thing that really drives WWE. He may be a robot, but he still pulls down numbers that only The Rock and Stone Cold could match. They need a guy like Cena so parents will bring their kids to the show.

If the critics of Cena were given their wish and he was gone, you would love the product. It would look a lot like WCW with declining revenue.

[Reaper16]

Cena CAN go in the ring. He used to be garbage, but he's been good for a few years now. It is absolutely not a coincidence that many match-of-the-year contenders have Cena in them. He's not being carried out there like he used to have to be.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Anyone who thinks trips still buries people, simply isn't paying attention.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Anyone who thinks trips still buries people, simply isn't paying attention.

HHH is also the reason many more guys from the Indies are getting shots. It used to be that WWE completely looked down on anyone that wasn't created by WWE or a WCW/ECW retread. In the last several years since Hunter was more involved in talent signings, it has given us Daniel Bryan, Cesaro, Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Sammi Zayne and others.

He is playing his current role perfectly on screen.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Cena CAN go in the ring. He used to be garbage, but he's been good for a few years now. It is absolutely not a coincidence that many match-of-the-year contenders have Cena in them. He's not being carried out there like he used to have to be.

I was actually careful not to say he was being carried. He's not a bad worker. But he's not somebody who's going to carry someone else, either.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by Swanman

HHH is also the reason many more guys from the Indies are getting shots. It used to be that WWE completely looked down on anyone that wasn't created by WWE or a WCW/ECW retread. In the last several years since Hunter was more involved in talent signings, it has given us Daniel Bryan, Cesaro, Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Sammi Zayne and others.

He is playing his current role perfectly on screen.

Hunter is the reason that wrestling is interesting again imo. McMahon was the reason it got so stale and boring, hunter is doing what he can to change things. The more Hunter the better atm.

Hunter views himself as a technical wrestler (which is arguably incorrect), and for that reason i think he is pushing the more technically gifted, in-ring talents such as the indie guys.