Ben Carson: Egyptian pyramids were used to store grain, not Pharaohs' tombs - Page 13

**Dave Lane** · 11-05-2015, 12:28 PM

Egypt’s pyramids were built by the biblical Joseph to store grain and were not, as archaeologists believe, tombs for pharaohs, Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson has said.

The retired neurosurgeon, who is seeking his party’s nomination for the White House, made these remarks in a 1998 address at Andrews University, a Michigan school associated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, to which he belongs, in a video posted on Buzzfeed on Wednesday.

The church is a conservative evangelical Christian one.

“My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,” Carson – who last week overtook Republican rival Donald Trump for the first time in a national poll – told graduates in his address.

“Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it.

“And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.”

Asked on Wednesday if he still held these views, Carson told CBS News: “It’s still my belief, yes.”

Speaking to MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Thursday, rival Republican Trump said: “He’s informed me about the pyramids. I think I’ll have to put that in my repertoire about Ben. That was a strange deal.”

In his 1998 address, Carson said: “And when you look at the way that the pyramids are made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they’d have to be that way for various reasons.

“And various of scientists have said, ‘Well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that’s how, you know, it doesn’t require an alien being when God is with you’.”

In the old testament book of Genesis, Joseph, one of the 12 sons of Jacob, was said to have “stored up grain in great abundance like the sand of the sea, until he stopped measuring it, for it was beyond measure”.

After seven years of plenty, the story in Genesis says, Egypt suffered seven years of famine, during which Joseph was able to feed the people with the grain he had stored.

Carson has spoken often about his faith, saying recently of his critics: “They say, ‘Carson, you know, how can you be a surgeon, a neurosurgeon, and believe that God created the Earth, and not believe in evolution, which is the basis of all knowledge and all science?’ …

“But I do believe God created us, and I did just fine … And in fact, the more you know about God, and the deeper your relationship with God, I think the more intricate becomes your knowledge of the way things work, including the human body.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...pharoahs-tombs

eDave · 11-06-2015, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Its not a globe or sphere or ellipsoid. A Geiod and here is an image of of the actual mapped surface of the earth.

Wrong!

patteeu · 11-06-2015, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Its not a globe or sphere or ellipsoid. A Geiod and here is an image of of the actual mapped surface of the earth.

You mean it's not a perfect sphere? I suspect even the dumbest among us understand that. Probably even loneiguana.

**srvy** · 11-06-2015, 04:23 PM

**Dave Lane** · 11-06-2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by go bowe

during the offseason, arrowhead is filled with grain...

Only up to the club level. The 1%ers don't want residue in their boxes.

(sexual double entendre alert)

**Dave Lane** · 11-06-2015, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Oh surprise look the are some surfaces that appear to be flat. The eath is more like a misshaped rock.

I'm not sure exactly how to break this to you, but that is not a image of the earth. I really appreciate your efforts at trying to get this thread into the Hall of Classics but it's demeaning to reeruned people to portray them in this light.

DaveNull · 11-06-2015, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Its not a globe or sphere or ellipsoid. A Geiod and here is an image of of the actual mapped surface of the earth.

lol...no.

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It is a highly exaggerated rendering, but it neatly illustrates how the tug we feel from the mass of rock under our feet is not the same in every location.

An explanation from the source of your hot linked image.

And the article explaining it further from BBC found in the same article.

eDave · 11-06-2015, 04:33 PM

Srvy, tap out dude. I hate seeing you do this to yourself.

go bo · 11-06-2015, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave

Wrong!

Fish · 11-06-2015, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Its not a globe or sphere or ellipsoid. A Geiod and here is an image of of the actual mapped surface of the earth.

JFC.... can you get anything correct here? That's not an image of the actual mapped surface of the earth. A geoid is a representation of the surface of the earth that it would assume if the sea covered the earth, also known as surface of equal gravitational potential. It's a method to calculate surface elevations. It is not a representation of the shape of the Earth's crust.

DaveNull · 11-06-2015, 04:38 PM

Oh...there's more when you dig into the BBC article explaining it..

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It is the shape the oceans would adopt if there were no winds, no currents and no tides.

The differences have been magnified nearly 10,000 times to show up as they do in the new model.

Aries Walker · 11-06-2015, 04:38 PM

The Earth is an oblate spheroid - mostly spherical, but flat at the top and round at the Equator. It's also smoother than a billiard ball would be if they were both the same size.

I learned both of those by the eighth grade. It's fairly basic.

**Saul Good** · 11-06-2015, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Its not a globe or sphere or ellipsoid. A Geiod and here is an image of of the actual mapped surface of the earth.

WTF did the Jews do to the Earth?

DaveNull · 11-06-2015, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker

The Earth is an oblate spheroid - mostly spherical, but flat at the top and round at the Equator. It's also smoother than a billiard ball would be if they were both the same size.

I learned both of those by the eighth grade. It's fairly basic.

See that's where they get you. Schools exist for indoctrination not education.

I know this to be true because I heard it from BEP who is not a professional educator, therefore she knows more than actual teachers.

**BigRedChief** · 11-06-2015, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

So this guy is a nut I didn't read about what he believes I searched some articles and read that one and posted it.

You were getting hammered and called out on your BS. People responded with facts and science. You used this guy as a "science and facts" counterpoint. You just made yourself look sillier.

Advice............quit digging.

**BigRedChief** · 11-06-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

WTF did the Jews do to the Earth?

Sold it and the nuclear weapons to the Klingons?

11-05-2015, 12:28 PM
Dave Lane Space Cadet and Aczabel Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kanab, UT, USA Casino cash: $9333275 VARSITY	Ben Carson: Egyptian pyramids were used to store grain, not Pharaohs' tombs Egypt’s pyramids were built by the biblical Joseph to store grain and were not, as archaeologists believe, tombs for pharaohs, Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson has said. The retired neurosurgeon, who is seeking his party’s nomination for the White House, made these remarks in a 1998 address at Andrews University, a Michigan school associated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, to which he belongs, in a video posted on Buzzfeed on Wednesday. The church is a conservative evangelical Christian one. “My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,” Carson – who last week overtook Republican rival Donald Trump for the first time in a national poll – told graduates in his address. “Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. “And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.” Asked on Wednesday if he still held these views, Carson told CBS News: “It’s still my belief, yes.” Speaking to MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Thursday, rival Republican Trump said: “He’s informed me about the pyramids. I think I’ll have to put that in my repertoire about Ben. That was a strange deal.” In his 1998 address, Carson said: “And when you look at the way that the pyramids are made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they’d have to be that way for various reasons. “And various of scientists have said, ‘Well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that’s how, you know, it doesn’t require an alien being when God is with you’.” In the old testament book of Genesis, Joseph, one of the 12 sons of Jacob, was said to have “stored up grain in great abundance like the sand of the sea, until he stopped measuring it, for it was beyond measure”. After seven years of plenty, the story in Genesis says, Egypt suffered seven years of famine, during which Joseph was able to feed the people with the grain he had stored. Carson has spoken often about his faith, saying recently of his critics: “They say, ‘Carson, you know, how can you be a surgeon, a neurosurgeon, and believe that God created the Earth, and not believe in evolution, which is the basis of all knowledge and all science?’ … “But I do believe God created us, and I did just fine … And in fact, the more you know about God, and the deeper your relationship with God, I think the more intricate becomes your knowledge of the way things work, including the human body.” http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...pharoahs-tombs
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Aries Walker Back again, again. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $9503357	The Earth is an oblate spheroid - mostly spherical, but flat at the top and round at the Equator. It's also smoother than a billiard ball would be if they were both the same size. I learned both of those by the eighth grade. It's fairly basic.
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