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Old 05-26-2024, 02:33 AM  
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How do you guys feel about eventually dying?

I have these random I guess you can call “episodes” where i have this almost out of body experience where i start saying to myself, you’re just you, you’re literally just you, and start thinking about how minuscule i am and then it eventually leads to how i am so fearful of dying one day. I understand I wasn’t around for the Korean War, or world war 2, or the Roman Empire, and that makes sense, since I simply wasnt existing, but now that I exist, the thought of me not existing, and quite frankly never being able to exist again terrifies me. I went to a religious school for a few years and went to church etc, but science tells me that my body make up is unique, and just being born is winning the lottery in its own right. As nice as it is to think my body protrudes this soul is going to rise up and say what up Jesus am I in? or my very unique dna that can profile me as a murderer is going to somehow leak out of my dead composing body, and makes its way into some other woman’s vagina to again try to fight off another 1 million other contestants (assuming dad didn’t jerk off that day) just really gets to me that I have this one chance and this limited, aka very limited time to live a good life. I have a good life mind you. Great wife, supportive family, 2 kids now, great house, but this whole death thing just makes me say sometimes like, wtf man, I want to experience this love and life forever, why does it gotta be so short. Just would like to hear your guys’ thoughts on the manner. Thanks.
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This morning I found out our great granddaughter is coming for the holiday week along with our two daughters, two son in laws and two youngest grandsons.

It was like I envision taking a steroid, it motivated me so much! I have been like a tornado getting ready! **** dying for a few weeks anyhow!
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Old 06-22-2024, 09:20 PM   #185
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This morning I found out our great granddaughter is coming for the holiday week along with our two daughters, two son in laws and two youngest grandsons.

It was like I envision taking a steroid, it motivated me so much! I have been like a tornado getting ready! **** dying for a few weeks anyhow!
Wow Ed, sounds like a very special event... its tough to get everyone together like that these days, pull out all the stops bud
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https://www.monroeinstituteuk.org/focus-levels/

States of Consciousness and Focus™ Levels

As a result of extensive experiential and brainwave research at the Monroe Institute, a simple system of labels (called Focus Levels) was devised to indicate various states or phases of consciousness. These labels are a means of neutral identification, and are used extensively as part of the training process throughout our weekend and week-long experiential programs.

Focus levels are also used as part of the Gateway Process also known as ‘The Gateway Experience’ and ‘The Gateway Tapes’.

Focus Levels Overview

Focus 1 – Normal, everyday waking consciousness. Completely in phase with physical matter reality. Also referred to as “C1 Consciousness”.

Focus 10 – The physical body is deeply relaxed while the mind remains conscious, awake and alert. “Mind awake, body asleep.” This is the first state of consciousness explored in our Gateway Voyage program.

Focus 11 – The Access Channel – the ultimate communication channel to all levels of awareness -mental, physical, and emotional. Opened during each Human Plus® exercise.

Focus 12 – A state of expanded awareness while the body remains deeply relaxed and asleep.

Focus 15 – A state of No-Time. Consciousness is now far removed from physical body signals. Linear time is no longer relevant to experience. Sometimes referred to as the Void or Pure Potential.

Focus 18 – Through Focus 18, individuals can cultivate a state of unconditional love and acceptance, leading to profound personal growth.

Focus 21 – On the very edge of perception of the time/space continuum. Mind remains fully conscious and active. The Bridge to other realities.

[Comment: This is apparently the focus state of the out of body experience itself within this physical world/universe]

Focus 22 – On the border between time/space and non-physical states of being. Comatose.

Focus 23 – The condition in which an individual may find him or herself immediately following physical death. The territory of the ‘new arrivals’.

Focus 24 – The site of non-physical activity generated by simple or primitive religious or cultural beliefs.

Focus 25 – The expression of the major organized religious beliefs in recent human history.

Focus 26 – Here are identified certain areas, few in number, containing the structures and knowledge of various highly individual religious and other beliefs based on direct experience of self.
(Focus Levels 24 to 26 are referred to as the Belief System Territories; thought-responsive environments that are explored extensively during the Lifeline and Exploration 27 programs)

Focus 27 – The edge of human thought capacity. The site of a way-station (not a terminus) for rest and recovery from the trauma of physical death, for reviewing life events and for planning the next phase of life.

[Comment: This is the focus level of a place they call "The Park". I've seen it described as the astral plane that most closely resembles physical life/existence on Earth. In Robert Monroe's third book, he wrote that when his wife passed away, people at the Monroe Institute reported to him that they had safely escorted her soul/spirit/conscious energy to "The Park." Whatever is beyond this focus level, beyond the Earth astral planes, I've seen it also referred to as "the doorway to the Absolute", which may have something to do with the final Gateway tape. I saw someone say that to go through this "doorway", you have to leave everything you ever thought you are behind, like a death of the ego. Focus 27 is apparently also at the edge of what Robert Monroe calls in his books the H Band*]

Focus 34/35 – The area of the Gathering. Beings from many other locations within the physical universe are gathered here to witness the upcoming Earth Changes. First mentioned in Bob Monroe’s second book, Far Journeys.

Focus 42 – I-There cluster consciousness.

Focus 49 – Sea of I-There clusters.

* (Comment: Excerpt from Robert Monroe describing H Band in his third book, Ultimate Journey): "The peak of uncontrolled thought emanating from all living forms on Earth, particularly humans is found in the H Band. If you consider it as truly all, even in the current time frame, you get a better idea of the magnitude of this disorganised cacophonous mass of noisy energy. The amplitude of each segment of the band is determined by the emotion involved in the thought. My impression is that it contains not only current time thought patterns, but all that ever existed. They are continuous and simultaneous and it may be that the older radiation is layered, so all one perceives is the current emission.

To study it objectively if one is so foolhardy as to want to do so, all one needs do is move that state of dissociation just beyond the last vestiges of any direct Earth related human mind activity in the non physical. There it appears much like a reflective layer, beyond which the effects diminish rapidly. Passing through it quickly is advisable, just as one would try to work through a screaming angry mob – for that is what it sounds like, in a multitude of accents and tongues.

Generally however, we are tuned in with only parts of this radiation; if there is no alignment of a given frequency there is no reception. Through experience, methods that prevent reception of undesirable thought radiation may be learned."
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If dying was so great, someone would have come back to this side by now to brag about it.

Never heard a dying person say how great this is on the way out.....
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A friend of mine had sleep apnea, he would joke and say yeah that’s probably how I’ll die. And that I couldn’t think of a better way to go, a few years later his wife came home and he died laying on his bed. Hands behind his head in full rest mode.

He was only about 40 years old at the time.
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States of Consciousness and Focus™ Levels

As a result of extensive experiential and brainwave research at the Monroe Institute, a simple system of labels (called Focus Levels) was devised to indicate various states or phases of consciousness. These labels are a means of neutral identification, and are used extensively as part of the training process throughout our weekend and week-long experiential programs.

Focus levels are also used as part of the Gateway Process also known as ‘The Gateway Experience’ and ‘The Gateway Tapes’.

Focus Levels Overview

Focus 1 – Normal, everyday waking consciousness. Completely in phase with physical matter reality. Also referred to as “C1 Consciousness”.

Focus 10 – The physical body is deeply relaxed while the mind remains conscious, awake and alert. “Mind awake, body asleep.” This is the first state of consciousness explored in our Gateway Voyage program.

Focus 11 – The Access Channel – the ultimate communication channel to all levels of awareness -mental, physical, and emotional. Opened during each Human Plus® exercise.

Focus 12 – A state of expanded awareness while the body remains deeply relaxed and asleep.

Focus 15 – A state of No-Time. Consciousness is now far removed from physical body signals. Linear time is no longer relevant to experience. Sometimes referred to as the Void or Pure Potential.

Focus 18 – Through Focus 18, individuals can cultivate a state of unconditional love and acceptance, leading to profound personal growth.

Focus 21 – On the very edge of perception of the time/space continuum. Mind remains fully conscious and active. The Bridge to other realities.

[Comment: This is apparently the focus state of the out of body experience itself within this physical world/universe]

Focus 22 – On the border between time/space and non-physical states of being. Comatose.

Focus 23 – The condition in which an individual may find him or herself immediately following physical death. The territory of the ‘new arrivals’.

Focus 24 – The site of non-physical activity generated by simple or primitive religious or cultural beliefs.

Focus 25 – The expression of the major organized religious beliefs in recent human history.

Focus 26 – Here are identified certain areas, few in number, containing the structures and knowledge of various highly individual religious and other beliefs based on direct experience of self.
(Focus Levels 24 to 26 are referred to as the Belief System Territories; thought-responsive environments that are explored extensively during the Lifeline and Exploration 27 programs)

Focus 27 – The edge of human thought capacity. The site of a way-station (not a terminus) for rest and recovery from the trauma of physical death, for reviewing life events and for planning the next phase of life.

[Comment: This is the focus level of a place they call "The Park". I've seen it described as the astral plane that most closely resembles physical life/existence on Earth. In Robert Monroe's third book, he wrote that when his wife passed away, people at the Monroe Institute reported to him that they had safely escorted her soul/spirit/conscious energy to "The Park." Whatever is beyond this focus level, beyond the Earth astral planes, I've seen it also referred to as "the doorway to the Absolute", which may have something to do with the final Gateway tape. I saw someone say that to go through this "doorway", you have to leave everything you ever thought you are behind, like a death of the ego. Focus 27 is apparently also at the edge of what Robert Monroe calls in his books the H Band*]

Focus 34/35 – The area of the Gathering. Beings from many other locations within the physical universe are gathered here to witness the upcoming Earth Changes. First mentioned in Bob Monroe’s second book, Far Journeys.

Focus 42 – I-There cluster consciousness.

Focus 49 – Sea of I-There clusters.

* (Comment: Excerpt from Robert Monroe describing H Band in his third book, Ultimate Journey): "The peak of uncontrolled thought emanating from all living forms on Earth, particularly humans is found in the H Band. If you consider it as truly all, even in the current time frame, you get a better idea of the magnitude of this disorganised cacophonous mass of noisy energy. The amplitude of each segment of the band is determined by the emotion involved in the thought. My impression is that it contains not only current time thought patterns, but all that ever existed. They are continuous and simultaneous and it may be that the older radiation is layered, so all one perceives is the current emission.

To study it objectively if one is so foolhardy as to want to do so, all one needs do is move that state of dissociation just beyond the last vestiges of any direct Earth related human mind activity in the non physical. There it appears much like a reflective layer, beyond which the effects diminish rapidly. Passing through it quickly is advisable, just as one would try to work through a screaming angry mob – for that is what it sounds like, in a multitude of accents and tongues.

Generally however, we are tuned in with only parts of this radiation; if there is no alignment of a given frequency there is no reception. Through experience, methods that prevent reception of undesirable thought radiation may be learned."
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Old 07-21-2024, 05:04 AM   #193
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A friend of mine had sleep apnea, he would joke and say yeah that’s probably how I’ll die. And that I couldn’t think of a better way to go, a few years later his wife came home and he died laying on his bed. Hands behind his head in full rest mode.

He was only about 40 years old at the time.
I don't even understand how this can happen. Shouldn't your body react that you aren't getting air and just snap awake. I know it happened to Reggie White (and countless others) but I just don't get how.
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I don't even understand how this can happen. Shouldn't your body react that you aren't getting air and just snap awake. I know it happened to Reggie White (and countless others) but I just don't get how.
Google says the stress over time most often leads to arrhythmias and sudden cardiac arrest
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