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Old 06-19-2023, 10:45 AM  
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Tourist(s) missing in submarine while trying to reach the Titannic

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-coa...-sub-1.6446841


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A search and rescue operation is currently underway to locate a submarine that went missing during an expedition to the Titanic.
The U.S. Coast Guard was looking for the submarine Monday morning after it disappeared during the expedition from St. John's, N.L. The infamous 1912 wreck is located more than 600 kilometres southeast of the province in the North Atlantic Ocean.
The trip to the Titanic was being run by OceanGate Expeditions, a U.S.-based company. It uses a five-person submersible named Titan to reach the wreckage 3,800 metres below the surface. OceanGate's website advertises a seven-night voyage to the Titanic for US$250,000 per person, or approximately CA$330,000.
"We are exploring and mobilizing all options to bring the crew back safely," an OceanGate spokesperson said in an email to CTV News. "Our entire focus is on the crewmembers in the submersible and their families."


Those tours are a series of five eight-day missions to the Titanic with the money raised by tourists going towards Titanic research. Posts on social media show the ship launched from the St. John's area last week.

Did they really have 5 people in this?? Or do they have a larger version??



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Old 06-20-2023, 03:14 PM   #181
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Old 06-20-2023, 03:15 PM   #182
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not necessarily but when you look at everything as a whole - lack of texts (they had a way to text message the surface) , 7 different redundant systems to float it back to the surface, the mechanical sand clock to release ballast after some hours...

I think it is more likely than not that the hull is destroyed rather than them just resting on the bottom , suffocating. Much more likely...

But the answer to your question is no, I wouldn't trust this dude to work on my actual camper let alone a submarine built with camper parts.
I wonder if they actually tested releasing the ballast at depth. When you've got a ton of pressure against everything, I'd think there are a bunch of ways where ballast isn't going to fall the way you think.
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Old 06-20-2023, 03:19 PM   #183
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There is also the possiblity that all those systems he had designed didn't actually work or they did and the GPS is ****ed and they're cooking inside this metal pop can on top of the ocean.

Yeah I think they are definitely more prepared and were hoping they would be on the surface... They had called in some help from Canada . I think theyve gone out on the surface about 100 miles in all directions. It only goes 3mph so I think its fairly limited as to where it could have ended up and then they can calculate where it might drift. Hopefully it is on the surface because i think there should be air left a little while longer.


I just fear the worst because of the previous reasons. I dont know though. It seems like the two biggest possibilities are the hull imploding, and the thing getting snagged down below... but if it was snagged, supposedly they should be able to text....But maybe it is snagged AND they had some technical issues but didnt have hull failure.


I cant even imagine this father's feelings if his son is in there with him and having to watch him face death. Ugh. Just regular failures and life can be hard enough
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Old 06-20-2023, 03:21 PM   #184
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This thread is starting to creep me out even more than this thread was creeping me out yesterday.
You should read the Tom Clancy novel Without Remorse. There is a part where the hero uses a decompression chamber during an interrogation.

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I wonder if they actually tested releasing the ballast at depth. When you've got a ton of pressure against everything, I'd think there are a bunch of ways where ballast isn't going to fall the way you think.

yeah..


The thing hasnt really made THAT many trips down that deep as far as i know. I think about 3 times. And possibly one of those 3 times it didn't have a full 5 people.



i was trying to look up about previous journeys and i think 12 people have gone down . Which is 3 trips of 4 each.


One little rip in that gasket at pressure and theyre ****ed
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Old 06-20-2023, 03:23 PM   #186
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Mythbusters did a segment where they wrapped a human skeleton in pig flesh, sent it down 300 feet, then disconnected the dive suit. It wasn't instantaneous but sure enough everything got sucked into the helmet, pretty soon all you could see through the mask was blood. Pretty creepy.
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Wow, good point about the floating. Even if this thing makes it back to the surface, it's airtight by definition and if they were bolted in, they're screwed after a certain amount of time.

My money is on implosion. It's the simplest means of failure.
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Old 06-20-2023, 03:25 PM   #188
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Could be aliens. Or mermen.

Can't rule out a Kraken or bigfoot either.
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So, apparently, they lost comms Sunday morning at 9:45 am. The Coast Guard wasn't alerted until 5:40 pm Sunday. I get that it's normal for the comms to go out, but wouldn't you think something isn't right if they aren't able to communicate for over an hour plus, especially since their entire voyage relies on communicating with people on the surface via text/GPS?
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https://oceangate.com/expeditions/past-expeditions.html <-- past expeditions


None of their past expeditions have the Titan sub listed as the vehicle used.


They have another sub called cyclops they use.


SO apparently good news, they still have a sub if you guys wanna book a trip.
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more good news


theres a single person version





we should all pitch in and book a ride for a contest winner
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Random useless story. When I went out the Aleutian Islands back in 2010, there was one island where you could see a shipwreck inside a shipwreck. Apparently a ship got caught in a storm and was thrown up on the beach on an island, and then years later a smaller ship got caught in a similar storm and was thrown up on the beach in the identical spot and slammed into the larger ship. I've got a picture of it somewhere.
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Well, at least they won't have to decompress if they make it to the surface.
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I can imagine you probably lose some sense of comprehension when you're down that deep and it's probably trippy as **** and you don't realize how serious the situation is.
You do.

My buddy and I have chalk-boards where we have to do math problems and a sort of connect the dot thing at 100 ft. If we !@#$ 'em up, dive's over; day lost.

Because yeah, your brain can just kinda scramble on you. That's how a LOT of those lost divers have gone out. They just go a little nutty.

We haven't had that happen to us yet but just read a couple of those stories and they'll keep you from fudging the results. You don't mess with Nitrogen Narcosis - it will **** up your day in a hurry.
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