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Old 04-28-2022, 09:16 PM  
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:08 PM   #1921
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So pressures weren't good enough becuase they weren't sacks, now sacks alone aren't good enough either.

What a twat you are.
LOL, this is another situation where people want to see something that isn't there.

People were saying that Karlaftis was going to finish with 8-10 sacks as a rookie 1st round pick with Chris Jones on his side that's great. With the chances he's had with said snaps and win rate he's shelling out mid round production in comparison to a 1st round pick.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:10 PM   #1922
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LOL, this is another situation where people want to see something that isn't there.

People were saying that Karlaftis was going to finish with 8-10 sacks as a rookie 1st round pick with Chris Jones on his side that's great. With the chances he's had with said snaps and win rate he's shelling out mid round production in comparison to a 1st round pick.
So people having unrealistic expectations is somehow a knock on Karlaftis?

He's shelling out mid round production, but he's one of those most productive rookie edge rushers in a class loaded with them?

You are being nonsensical.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:13 PM   #1923
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So people having unrealistic expectations is somehow a knock on Karlaftis?

He's shelling out mid round production, but he's one of those most productive rookie edge rushers in a class loaded with them?

You are being nonsensical.
You're forgetting the part where Chris Jones is playing with him too. Yes, mid round production with the chances he's had.
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You're forgetting the part where Chris Jones is playing with him too. Yes, mid round production wi ty h the chances he's had.
Chris Jones doesn't even line up next to him most of the time. Karlaftis has very little help where it would really count for him which is at WDE.

Everybody complains about how bad our DL and in particular our DEs are but Karlaftis is also somehow supposed to produce more because of the talent around him? You can't have it both ways.

Absolutely ****ing reeruned.
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Chris Jones doesn't even line up next to him most of the time. Karlaftis has very little help where is would really count from him which is at WDE.

Everybody complains about how bad our DL and in particular our DEs are but Karlaftis is also somehow supposed to produce more because of the talent around him?

Absolutely ****ing reeruned.
Rose colored excuses, for medial production when an Elite player is being doubled and triple teamed.

At least you admit that Karlaftis should have no expectations at all because it's unrealistic to have any for a 1st round pick.
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George is going to finish the regular season strong against mainly division opponents (in college he was a beast against other big10 teams) and I won’t be shocked one bit if he needs the year with 8 sacks…the same total Tamba ended his rookie year with and he had Jared Allen flushing QBs towards him.

Hopefully we add a genuinely good edge guy on the other side so he can finish this pass rush.

Frank Clark has been as disappointing as Orlando Brown has been. At least to me.
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If you think Karlaftis was going to show more than he has then you don't know football. Rarely do back half of the 1st rd dline players put up better sack/pressure numbers than Karlaftis so far.
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If Karlaftis' win rate is mid round production level, let's see his win rate in comparison to the rest of his peers....

Because IIRC, it's also near the top of this year's draft class.
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Rose colored excuses, for medial production when an Elite player is being doubled and triple teamed.

At least you admit that Karlaftis should have no expectations at all because it's unrealistic to have any for a 1st round pick.
You're either reeruned or completely disingenuous if this is your takeaway.

Also, pointing out the hypocrisy of complaining about the lack of talent on the DL while simultaneously trying to say that Karlaftis should be playing better due to the talent around him is not "rose colored excuses", it's just the truth.
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You're forgetting the part where Chris Jones is playing with him too. Yes, mid round production with the chances he's had.
Do you understand the term “pass rush win rate”?
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If Karlaftis' win rate is mid round production level, let's see his win rate in comparison to the rest of his peers....

Because IIRC, it's also near the top of this year's draft class.
Then why isn't he finishing plays while QBs just run away from him since he's a step too late or slow. As I said Sam Williams was available and has had more of an impact with less snaps playing for the Cowboys
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Clearly "mid round" level win rate!
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Frank Clark has been as disappointing as Orlando Brown has been. At least to me.
That's a polite description of both guys, lol
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Then why isn't he finishing plays while QBs just run away from him since he's a step too late or slow. As I said Sam Williams was available and has had more of an impact with less snaps playing for the Cowboys
Karlaftis is half a sack behind Williams, who plays on the most loaded front 7 in football, with the best pass rusher in the NFL.

And he has a higher win rate which you've now moved the goalpost to after Karlaftis had back to back games with a sack.

So what is it? Oochie Wally or One Mic?
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Clearly "mid round" level win rate!


Clearly!!!!!! Why hasn't he been finishing plays while Burrow,Carr, Allen,Lawrence, Herbert, have been casually running away from him making play that just kills momentum.
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