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#1921 |
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Franklin may end up being around for our 2nd.
McConkey won't be I doubt. Pearsall probably won't either. Odunze is gonna be the best of the big 3 I think. |
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#1922 |
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I would have liked to have seen Malachi Corley at the combine. He is a beast after the catch and would seem to be a good fit in this offense depending on where he ends up going.
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#1923 |
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Pearsalls combine performance surprised me. I thought he played like a 4.55 guy. Which is why I'm reticent to give much credence to his combine performance.
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#1924 |
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People can look at Pearsall and Mcconkey and project them to be a Kupp or even Thielan. But for every Kupp and Thielan there's a Renfrow and Alec Pierce. Pearsall turning 24 at the start of next season is tough as Veach doesn't seem to like drafting older players. If Mcconkey is viable on the outside aswell as inside then of course it would be an interesting pick. But right now I think Franklin and Leggett are the guys.
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I like Tez Walker a bit, I think he's gone a fair bit before our 2md round pick, and I think he's probably a bit rich at 32. I think he might have the highest ceiling out of anyone left if we stay put at 32, him or Legette, but also a pretty low floor. I'd probably rather going up to get Mitchell. I don't think Franklin is there at 32 either.
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#1926 |
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Finding a true x and z should be a goal imo, especially if we have 4-5 picks in the top 100. Having an effective, cost controlled receiving corps would really enable the team to extend some talent up for second contracts.
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#1927 |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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I want BTJ or Mitchell. Franklin's terrible 10 split and disappointing 40 time, may have pushed him out of the late 1st /early 2nd.
I understand wanting a starting tackle, but in today's NFL receivers are more important than linemen. I am not saying linemen aren't important, because they obviously are, but not as important as receivers. No matter how good a LT is, they work within confines of the play call and protection call. Yeah, top tier LTs are crazy athletic, and usually protect the QBs blindside, but they are rarely directly responsible for scoring, and don't affect the outcome of games the way an elite WR does. Elite WRs, like Hill or Jefferson, not only work within the play call, but they create when the play doesn't work. What does a LT do when the play doesn't work? Not much. When Tyreek had 200 yards in a single quarter, no one talked about the stellar LT play that made it possible. LT play usually only gets talked about when it is bad. A good, decent LT is currently enough for this team. The offensive line room is much better right now than the wide receiver room. Unless we are moving up for Alt, a WR like BTJ or Mitchell will help in the pursuit of the 3-peat more than any offensive tackle we could draft. Honestly, they would do more than Alt too, but Alt is talented enough to justify the move up. (plus, obviously the connection with his father) |
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#1928 |
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Earlier, somewhere, I said Tez Walker was MVS with better hands, and when you watch him, he looks like MVS.
But, he catches the ball and is actually pretty physical when he needs to be. It appears that his route tree is limited to mostly downfield routes, but he is really good at them, so in college, there was no need to learn much else. This is also how Georgia treated Hardman. They didn't care about developing him, because he did the thing they wanted, so why change anything. I feel like I was harsh calling him MVS, and I kinda shit on him. I am sorry. The things I said were true, but I was being dismissive of his ability to learn and grow into a more balanced receiver. I felt like a dick, so I watched everything I could get my eyes on, listened to interviews, his, coaches, teammates, etc. and now I think if we don't pick a receiver in the first, and he is available, and BTJ, Mitchell, Worthy, Coleman, Legette, and Franklin aren't there, and any other player who should have already been picked, I wouldn't be upset at all to draft him in the 2nd round. I saw more plays where he used both his speed and then his physicality to make contested catches, and I think I heard a stat that he only had a single drop all season, with an overall drop percentage of 1% rounded up. But, that may have been a different receiver. He would often be at the edge of Maye's accurate distance, and he would have to adjust or come back a little, and he easily bodied DBs out of the way, and he played some big time programs this year. I thought about posting some links, and I thought I saved them, but I didn't. If you really think Rice is a WR1, then Walker would be a great compliment to the offense. I love Rice, but right now I see a very good #2. Mahomes is working on changing that right now. I think Mahomes could help Walker develop into a great receiver. But, Reid and Mahomes would have to really coach him up, but as I said a few days ago, Tyreek Hill was a running back when we drafted him. Recently Reid said he intended to use Hill as a return man, but after seeing how fast he was in camp, and also after seeing how Hill has a high football IQ, he said he asked Hill what else he could do. In the interview Reid said that Hill said give me some time and I will be your best receiver, so Andy started practicing Hill at WR, and said after 2 weeks Hill was right. I have to remember that draft picks aren't supposed to show up finished products, even though some do. |
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#1929 |
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The league would flip out if we traded up for BTJ.
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#1930 |
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Crow, I’d love to see your version of what potato has done below. Here are a few thoughts on this order. Thanks potato.
- I think Burton falls some here. He didn’t validate himself as deep threat with that 40 and this is a big class for WRs and he’s 6’. Plus Burton may have some emotional intelligence issues? I still like Burton if he’s available in the late third. The 2nd might be too high for him? - Coleman might fall with that 4.61 40. I like Coleman. He seems like an easy WR to project what he can do. He’s a football player with great hands and his talent shows better on tape than at the combine but I’m not sure where he goes. Is he the next anquan bolden? - Franklin might have benefited from the scheme in college and his 40 didn’t validate him. I’m not sure where he goes. Probably mid to late 2nd? - I don’t see pearsall making it past us in the 2nd. He’s probably mid 2nd also? - you don’t have the 5th round here but I could see Anthony Gould be a valuable punt returner and slot prospect for us. He’s tiny in the Josh downs size mold but slightly smaller. He’s 5’8” and 176 but he can fly. Combine number of 4.39 40, 1.49 10 yard split, 39.5” vert and a 10’9” broad. |
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#1931 |
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Everyone shooting their load at Worthy and he wasn’t even the most impressive WR to me.
Bryan Thomas Jr ran a 4.36 at 209 lbs and his 10 yard split was 1.50 compared to Worthy’s 1.49 That guy is incredibly impressive. Probably WR4 for most teams
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#1932 |
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I couldn’t disagree more. KC just won a Super Bowl with a well below average receiving group, that at times flat out sucked. They got their asses best badly by Tampa when they had OL problems. You need protection first and foremost.
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#1933 |
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Bryan Thomas Jr. and Leggette i think were real winners of the combine for WR's.
My man crush is really building up for those two.
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If I can’t a 1, I need an elite 2 with a 1st or 2nd round pick. Thomas Jr is my last elite 2. I don’t see Franklin or Worthy as elite 2s. Maybe decoy 2s. Unless you think Gabe Davis is an elite player.
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#1935 |
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I think the top 3 are gone in the top 10. Have a really hard time seeing Bryan Thomas Jr and Adonai Mitchell last to pick 25.
Bills were all over the WR’s in Indy. They looked at WR more than any other group. They’re 100% taking one of those dudes. Miami and Jacksonville might take one of them too. In the end I think the Chiefs are gonna have McConkey and Worthy in their range for a trade up or staying. Wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Veach go after Worthy even with some concerns about body type. Veach was all over Ruggs a few years ago and Worthy is just like him. They want that Tyreek element back in the offense
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