How a pair of attention whores destroyed any ounce of credibility they ever had

[Hammock Parties]

Enjoy. And **** EB.

How a season-long rift between Mahomes and Bieniemy ruined the AFC Championship

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Thank you DJBill once again and I think most of us appreciate your info. With the combine coming up they definitely will have to have an OC by then so if EB is gone they will do it Friday late afternoon for the weekend dump.

I intrigued by who this top player on O that demanded a trade though... Both Hill and Kelce supported EB on Twitter when the original story came out. Kelce also has professed his love for EB multiple times including on SB sunday. There is only 1 top player left that hasn't done or said anything in support of EB lately and that is Mahomes.

"considering publicly asking for a trade"

...sounds much more like a player venting than "he goes or I go".

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by DJBILL

I don't know what posts YOU are reading ... but NOWHERE in my posts am I trying to "pull the rug out" from under Clay.

I posted initially to CONFIRM that what he originally posted was 90% TRUE ! And ask everyone to give him a break.

The man has not lied to anyone here.

Thank you for your time

Clearly.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by DJBILL

I don't know what posts YOU are reading ... but NOWHERE in my posts am I trying to "pull the rug out" from under Clay.

I posted initially to CONFIRM that what he originally posted was 90% TRUE ! And ask everyone to give him a break.

The man has not lied to anyone here.

Thank you for your time

Do you have turrets?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

After all this time backing you he is now trying to pull the rug out from underneath you. The question is: is he realizing how this is all going to back fire? Or did you deny him your dick and now he’s pissed?

I’m going with option one… for a couple of different reasons.

I've been talking privately with a national guy on Twitter obviously won't say who he is but he's appeared on 810 plenty of times which might explain the disappearing act by our friend Darren. He's going to have a story out "in the next few weeks". You might be wondering how this came about. I sent Clay's original post to alot of media guys on Twitter. How do you think I called Jwhit posting here? The original story might seemed far fetched but there's plenty of smoke confirmed by a few people who are well respected in the NFL media.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

"considering publicly asking for a trade"

...sounds much more like a player venting than "he goes or I go".

Might be but there is really only 3 guys on offense that has the juice to say that..well maybe 4 with Thuney.

If I were to guess it is Patrick.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I've been talking privately with a national guy on Twitter obviously won't say who he is but he's appeared on 810 plenty of times which might explain the disappearing act by our friend Darren. He's going to have a story out "in the next few weeks". You might be wondering how this came about. I sent Clay's original post to alot of media guys on Twitter. How do you think I called Jwhit posting here? The original story might seemed far fetched but there's plenty of smoke confirmed by a few people who are well respected in the NFL media.

Probably with a promise of Gate’s BBQ.

But, whatever, what I thought I was clearly referencing was your stating that you were DJBILL at Clay’s request.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Probably with a promise of Gate’s BBQ.

But, whatever, what I thought I was clearly referencing was your stating that you were DJBILL at Clay’s request.

I'm pretty sure DJBill is Marty's uncle

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by DJBILL

First and foremost ... I had that info Monday night and wrote most of my piece yesterday so I had no idea that Nate Taylor had offered anything. I am not on twitter and I don't have a subscription to the Athletic. I posted what I was told on Monday night.

Second ... NOBODY .... (I REPEAT) ... NOBODY ... has asked me to post ANYTHING!!!!

I am a long time fan (just like you) that happens to have friends in the building and had heard what was going on. When Clay kept getting roasted ... I broke my ten year silence on here to simply confirm that 90% of what he told us in his first post was spot on based on my insider knowledge of the situation.

After my first post ... I DID .... do a little digging to further clarify my posts. But I have no skin in the game except for the reasons I've stated.

But NOBODY asked me o share info ... I did it on my own.

And at this point I admit I don't know what the future holds at OC. My sources either don't know ... or won't tell me.

Personally ... I want a change too. Our team has a window that doesn't need to be bogged down with strife and mistrust,

Thank you for your comments

So let me get this straight. You posted all of the below....

Originally Posted by DJBILL

This thread is being monitored CLOSELY at One Arrowhead Drive.

Originally Posted by DJBILL

I am throwing my ass on the line with every post I make.

For this issue ... I HAVE the sources to prove Clay was right.

But Im also in danger of damaging those friendships because I can tell you for a fact ... This thread is being monitored.

I have already been warned to be "less specific" as I could cause people to be held accountable for our friendship.

I also have no desire to be sued ... So the info I provide here has been checked and double checked before I post.

And then, in a thread that you claim is being CLOSELY MONITORED AT ARROWHEAD more than once, you decided to share that your BEST FRIEND AND NEIGHBOR works with the Chiefs and fed you all of this information. Including the most salacious bit about the top offensive player asking for a trade.

LOLOLOLOLOL.

You could've just said you had a source. You could've just said a friend. But you decided to go into SUCH SPECIFICS about your source even though this thread is being CLOSELY MONITORED at Arrowhead. Riiiiiiight. Because you so needed to defend Clay's honor, you put your best friend's job on the line.

I bet.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Thank you DJBill once again and I think most of us appreciate your info. With the combine coming up they definitely will have to have an OC by then so if EB is gone they will do it Friday late afternoon for the weekend dump.

I intrigued by who this top player on O that demanded a trade though... Both Hill and Kelce supported EB on Twitter when the original story came out. Kelce also has professed his love for EB multiple times including on SB sunday. There is only 1 top player left that hasn't done or said anything in support of EB lately and that is Mahomes.

I think if it is Mahomes then EB is gone. It would be nuts to retain someone that your star QB doesn’t want there.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by splatbass

I think if it is Mahomes then EB is gone. It would be nuts to retain someone that your star QB doesn’t want there.

yup

[TomBarndtsTwin]

EB is ALREADY gone. His contract has expired. He is a free agent OC.

Why does everyone keep acting like he’s still under contract with the team? If there really are all these issues with him, you just thank him for his years and walk away. Nothing more.

The Chiefs don’t ‘owe’ him anything. He’s been the OC the last 3 years of one of the greatest offenses the NFL has ever seen. He should be thanking the Chiefs for allowing himself to be put in position where he could be so successful and set up for a job post-Chiefs.

If he doesn’t get a job because of his past or poor interviews or ‘bad optics’ (whatever the **** that means) then that’s on him. The Chiefs did their part. They fulfilled the contract.

Time for both to move on and knock off the high school drama (if, in fact, any of that is going on).

[ARROW2]

Originally Posted by ARROW2

Waaaaay off topic but I am still waiting on my foursome with Kay Adams, Colleen and Acosta........

And then watch some football before round 2....

[Bearcat]

Well, if you guys had put this piece together -- all of it is copied/pasted from the original article plus the two posts that had tidbits of info -- it may not have been the train wreck you were hoping(?) for, but very much gets to the point without all the fan fiction.... it actually would have been *gasp* believable.

Flash back to August 2020. Bieniemy made this statement about Patrick Mahomes:

“You guys have been around him — you know him,” said Bieniemy. “He’s a competitive prick. OK? He’s a great kid, but he’s a competitive prick. He wants to improve at everything he could possibly improve upon. He wants to be the best at whatever he can do. And along the way, he wants to make sure that he’s leading the guys, he wants to be held accountable by his peers, but also, too — he just wants to work. And that’s what you love about being around him every single day.”

There was nothing playful about this quote. According to our source, Bieniemy disliked the dynamics Mahomes brought to the offense because he felt it hurt his chances to become a head coach. His statement may have come across as a joke, but as with any joke told, there is always some truth hidden in the delivery.

The 2020 season featured some minor disagreements between Mahomes and Bieniemy, that are at times just part of playing in the NFL. It was nothing out of the ordinary.

However, the situation began to head down a slippery slope as Super Bowl LV preparations went south. Bieniemy was interviewing for a head-coaching job while the team was trying to navigate the game plan and offset their offensive line problems.

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Post-SB

The Chiefs were fresh off a 31–9 thumping due to their Dollar General-style duct tape offensive line. Mahomes ran for 500+ lateral yards escaping rushers, and the Chiefs were exposed.

Walking out of the stadium that night, Bieniemy’s contract with the Chiefs had expired, which was a well publicized story leading up to the Super Bowl. Bieniemy was passed over for head coaching opportunities. Whispers started to circulate about his deficiencies as a coach. Players, for the most part, remained silent.

Between the Super Bowl and the draft, Bieniemy quietly signed a one-year deal for just over $1 million.

The back-channel communication on Bieniemy is simply not good and it has zero to do with race. Case in point, the NFL begged and pleaded with the Saints ownership group to “strongly consider” Bieniemy. In the end, the team felt Dennis Allen’s plan and continuity was more important than Bieniemy’s ideas and the NFL’s pleadings.

“Most of the guys tune Bieniemy out, because he does the one thing good coaches don’t do: ignores feedback from players.”

We have heard from multiple Chiefs staff, including some who stand on the sidelines, that Reid, Mahomes and Bieniemy have disagreed over gameplans and strategy all year, as well as far back to late 2020.

The same sources have indicated to us that the reason Bieniemy doesn’t have a head-coaching job is because of his temperament and unwillingness to accept feedback from his players.

This came up with the Houston Texans and the New Orleans Saints. Broncos GM George Paton asked Bieniemy point blank in his interview about a situation he saw while in Kansas City earlier this season. The answer from Bieniemy eliminated him from job contention.

***

According to our source, when training camp arrived, Bieniemy was different. He didn’t have the same energy he was previously known for. He was short and temperamental with a lot of people behind closed doors. Mahomes and Reid, according to our source, had a good plan in place. Bieniemy didn’t like it. He made several changes.

Then the Chiefs started poorly in 2021. Mahomes struggled. Eyebrows were raised.

The reality of the situation: schemes were misaligned, several defensive backs were not getting along with defensive backs coach Sam Madison, and the Chiefs had lingering injuries.

And then the biggest snowball of all started rolling again: the hidden feud between Bieniemy and Mahomes.

In Week 3, during a midweek meeting between Bieniemy, QB coach Mike Kafka and Mahomes, Bieniemy laid into his star quarterback for no reason. Both Kafka and Mahomes pushed back on Bieniemy.

After this heated argument, which was not normal, Reid stepped in. Following the loss to the Bills, Kafka was quietly given a greater role in planning the Chiefs passing game. Kafka is known for being creative offensively at Arrowhead — his innovations are often called the “Mike Files.” He came up with “Rose Bowl Right,” the play the Chiefs ran for a key first down in Super Bowl LIV.

So at this point, Bieniemy’s role was adjusted, but Reid continued to let him call plays, once the Chiefs opening script was exhausted.

***
AFCCG Meltdown

On the last play before halftime, three feet and nearly two years of frustration wiped out a chance to secure Kansas City’s third straight Super Bowl berth. Poor communication, stubbornness and lack of game control all came together at the worst possible time.

Bieniemy and Mahomes get into it at half time, in the tunnel and in the locker room. There was in-the-face yelling before Reid and the other coaches stepped in. There was shouting, shoving and name calling that got so out of hand that the privileged visitors who had locker room access were told to leave while order was restored. Emotions came out that had been building all season.

It happened again after the game. Any remaining confidence or trust in the relationship was broken at that point.


So what now? A “cooling off” period was suggested (and needed). The team isn’t going to make any “knee jerk” decisions based on what had taken place in the game.

During the player exit interviews that took place in the following days, one player (described as one of the top players on offense) was considering publicly asking for a trade if a certain OC was retained.

Bieniemy is a free agent. He will meet with the Chiefs and talk through options. They have held initial talks with another round coming soon.

Bieniemy has an image problem to work on, due to prospective owners noticing his temperament, the way he ignores his players, and his past criminal issues. The latter is a big issue in the eyes of many.

It is clearly in the best interests of both parties to go their separate ways at this point. For Bieniemy to return, it means issues with Mahomes, Kelce, Hill, Hardman and others would have to be addressed to a satisfactory level.

Reid could turn to an old friend in Matt Nagy, who will actually check Andy and collaborate with the offensive coaching staff and listen to his players.

People want to lay blame on the players, but that isn’t always what should happen. As one of our good friends said to us today, “You can have all the soldiers in the world, but if you don’t know how to lead them, you’re screwed.”

Leadership reflects attitude and the 2021 Chiefs were clearly a victim of Bieniemy’s poor attitude.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

So let me get this straight. You posted all of the below....





And then, in a thread that you claim is being CLOSELY MONITORED AT ARROWHEAD more than once, you decided to share that your BEST FRIEND AND NEIGHBOR works with the Chiefs and fed you all of this information. Including the most salacious bit about the top offensive player asking for a trade.

LOLOLOLOLOL.

You could've just said you had a source. You could've just said a friend. But you decided to go into SUCH SPECIFICS about your source even though this thread is being CLOSELY MONITORED at Arrowhead. Riiiiiiight. Because you so needed to defend Clay's honor, you put your best friend's job on the line.

I bet.

Hey, friendships are being ruined here!

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by eDave

This is a world class troll job though. It honestly should be commended.

You may be right. IF so! But it is the offseason and the way the season ended left serious serious questions and when an article comes out like this only makes the troll job easier BUT I'm leaning toward Clay based on the Jekyl/Hyde play of Pat in the 2nd half.