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If folks are getting a bunch of crap being off the grid and using solar, I'd call bullshit on that but absolutely not to net metering.
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Well, its a "problem" only for the goal of using solar without getting surcharged by the power company. AC is absolutely the correct choice for transmission.
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Further, you have the same issue you have with electric cars, they don't consume gas, but they still travel public roads. And public roads are maintained through taxes on gas. So basically, electric cars and solar feeders use the infrastructure without paying in to it's upkeep.
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What level of discourse should we start at when someone scoffs at the concept of clean power transmission?
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Yeah, if we figure 20% total efficiency, it would have to be 5 times as large, each side of the square would be about 2.36x as long. Then there'd be all the batteries and transmission and stuff.
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I have to think that they wouldn't mind the extra shade.
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And the losses in storage, flywheels, compressors, reservoirs, batteries, heat accumulators, etc.
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You may have gotten a bit of a harsh response to your initial questions, but that wasn't me.
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It costs money to make sure that the solar power being provided by random homeowners, however much is produced or whenever it is produced, is fully compliant (or is adjusted to be fully complicant) with that utility's specifications for AC.
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EDIT: Or, what al said above.
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Another thing you have to fund as a power supplier is inspection, upkeep and compliance of automatic shutoff devices in the instance of power outages or maintenance. The last thing power companies need is to send technicians into the field to repair outages and downed lines while your solar panel or turbine [and/or battery reserves] are energizing what should be dead lines.
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Yeah, even if power quality was not an issue, some kind of connection fee should still be paid unless you truly and completely cut yourself off the grid, physically disconnecting your house from the utility's power. Most solar power homes do not produce enough to meet their own needs and still rely on the utility to give them power, so they still need to help pay to maintain the grid, repair downed power lines, etc.
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uh ohhhhhhhhh
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