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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED
OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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11-09-2018, 11:46 AM | #19126 |
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If we lose, the defense will be blamed. And really, it will probably be their fault. But the bottom line is that the defense CAN play well enough to win. On it's good days, it's played well enough to beat anyone we'll face, anywhere. Come playoff time, nobody just walks out there and blows the other team off the field with raw talent. Ain't gonna be a Browns game on the schedule. Instead they have to go execute. This isn't college - the other team is good and in the post-season you have to simply play well to win. And if this defense plays well, it's plenty capable of that. There's a chance that in the post-season we have a game where the defense doesn't execute, the offense can't overcome it and we lose. And that will suck. But this defense has the pieces on it to go get those stops as well. If they go out there and play a good game - execute to their abilities - we can beat anyone. Yes, going forward we want more talent on defense to give that D more margin for error (and the offense as well, for that matter), but the defense has the ability to win us a championship as presently constructed - they simply have to go out and play one of their good games, not the Patriots game. They don't even have to play perfect football (i.e. the Bengals game was damn near that), but if they can give us a B/B+ game, we can beat anyone.
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11-09-2018, 12:17 PM | #19128 | |
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If there's any question over the status of those two this offseason, Veach will have a tough choice to make - and it's important that he isn't sentimental about his decision making process. This offense is too generational to let a half-ply toilet paper defense risk our chances of getting a title. |
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11-09-2018, 12:22 PM | #19129 | |
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I think it's legitimately competent now. No, it's not going to shut down great offenses but NOBODY does that. The Panthers got !@#$ing strafed last night and that's another team who people would consider as having a good defense. In this league, good offense is going to beat good defense - full stop. It just is. This personnel group, even without Houston and Berry, has gone out there and played several solid football games. That qualifies as 'competent', IMO. And I'm not even sure what 'good' is in this game anymore. I guess if you only get your shit pushed in ever 5 games instead of every 3, that qualifies as good. If you manage to keep premier offenses under 35, that's good. I mean it's just so damn hard to identify what 'good' even is in this league anymore. Near as I can tell, the only team that comes close to qualifying is Baltimore - they did some damn nice work against the Saints (though it was the Saints on the road). And even Baltimore got wrecked against Carolina. Any defense in the league is capable of having 35-40 points hung on them on any given week nowadays. And it's gonna happen to some team that gets called a 'good' defense in the posts-season.
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Unless you have some reason to believe he will be over this heel thing and ready to play 16 games at full tilt (absent add'l injury), then you have to cut him. That salary can be put to better use than 17 weeks of 'will he or won't he' from Eric Berry and his sore foot.
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I love hearing the stories about Mahomes solving the BB defense over the course of one half, etc. Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk |
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11-09-2018, 02:02 PM | #19134 | |
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I'm close, absolutely close to being there - but I need a litmus test against a great offense before I'm sold. Don't get me wrong - we don't have to shut out the Rams. But I want to see us at least trip them up on enough drives to be competent. Weirdly, in today's NFL, holding them between 30-35 points would be plenty competent for me. |
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Chiefs are 19th in scoring defense. If Conley doesn’t fumble in Pittsburgh they are 17th.
They are an average defense right now.
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Again, I'm not there. That was the diagnosis about the 2003 defense 9 games in. There are encouraging signs, yes, but I want to see us against another team worth its salt before making a judgment about their overall ability.
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9/16 Steelers score 37 in PIT (6-2-1) 9/23 49ers score 27 in KC 10/1 Broncos score 23 in DEN 10/7 Jags score 14 in KC 10/14 Pats hang 43 in NE (7-2) 10/21 Bengals score 10 in KC 10/28 Broncos score 23 in KC 11/14 Browns score 21 in CLE Twice this year we've allowed more than 30-35 and both times were on the road. We won once and you could argue, if Pat had not overthrown 2 passes on the first two drives, we may have won the second. I am in no way saying that this defense is great, or even good for that matter, but we have already faced all of the explosive offenses in the AFC and came away 8-1. With reinforcements (hopefully) coming soon, I don't see why we don't make an SB run. If the playoffs go through KC I believe we're golden. |
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Patrick Mahomes + Home Field Advantage= get ****ed AFC (I'm looking at you Shitsburgh and Raperiots)
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But I will say, if the road to the Super Bowl is through KC - I'd feel much better about our chances even if our defense looks like refried ass. It reminds me of the Royals in 2015. Our starting pitching likely could not have held up against the Stros or the Jays without homefield, and the Chiefs have a similar advantage if they could stay at home through the playoffs. If Berry and Houston arrive as legitimate reinforcements, the window is wide open. |
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