Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

[RunKC]

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Can we get Doug Pederson back in KC too? Let’s get all of the former Jags here, maybe Kirk too if he’s released.

On a serious note, would we say Robinson is comparable to OBJ? Because while I never cared much for OBJ the offense could at least function when he was here, if Robinson is comparable in performance but isn’t represented by a dumb **** agent like OBJ then perhaps that same level of performance is palatable at a better price.

He’s a much better pass blocker, way worse in the run game. Basically, the exact opposite of OBJ but a much better fit for this offense.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Can we get Doug Pederson back in KC too? Let’s get all of the former Jags here, maybe Kirk too if he’s released.

On a serious note, would we say Robinson is comparable to OBJ? Because while I never cared much for OBJ the offense could at least function when he was here, if Robinson is comparable in performance but isn’t represented by a dumb **** agent like OBJ then perhaps that same level of performance is palatable at a better price.

Very different.

On balance, Robinson is a better pass protector, IMO.

OBJ, on balance, is probably a slightly more consistent player.

Where OBJ wins on power more, Robinson is more likely to win on athleticism. He's by no means elite in that regard but where OBJ had bad feet and made up for it by just being very very long, Robinson has average feet but isn't quite as long.

If you're Madden ranking them, giving them both an 80 grade is probably fair -- but their respective category scores would be quite a bit different.

Ultimately I'd rather have Robinson than OBJ. Some teams might prefer OBJ.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Can we get Doug Pederson back in KC too? Let’s get all of the former Jags here, maybe Kirk too if he’s released.

On a serious note, would we say Robinson is comparable to OBJ? Because while I never cared much for OBJ the offense could at least function when he was here, if Robinson is comparable in performance but isn’t represented by a dumb **** agent like OBJ then perhaps that same level of performance is palatable at a better price.

Yes, I think Robinson is comparable to OBJ overall, probably a better fit specifically for us.

He's better than Donovan Smith for sure.

The OL was good when we had either of those guys. We really don't need more than adequate.

[comochiefsfan]

If we could go back in time. I would have locked up OBJ when we had the chance.

Rare misstep by Veach there.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

If we could go back in time. I would have locked up OBJ when we had the chance.

Rare misstep by Veach there.

JFC you're so goddamn clueless about everything.

That was 100% on OBJ and his "agent". That's why he lost money. Get a ****ing clue.

[comochiefsfan]

Originally Posted by staylor26

JFC you're so goddamn clueless about everything.

That was 100% on OBJ and his "agent". That's why he lost money. Get a ****ing clue.

Lol oh boy. Still off your meds today I see.

Well aware of all that. Veach clearly didn’t prioritize re-signing him or negotiations would never have soured to the point they did.

He thought he could get equal production at a better value and more importantly he underestimated the value in the fact that Patrick trusted OBJ.

He gambled and lost. It happens sometimes.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

JFC you're so goddamn clueless about everything.

That was 100% on OBJ and his "agent". That's why he lost money. Get a ****ing clue.

Yeah - it was strange to me that we had to go over this again a couple weeks back.

OBJ is the reason he's not a Chief. And not necessarily because of the 2023 off-season. That was standard tag games that didn't ultimately work out.

It was the goddamn 2022 offseason where he absolutely screwed us. And he was such a damn weirdo about the whole thing and tied our hands so long that Veach was unwilling to do that dance again the following year.

So even to the extent we 'messed up' the 2023 off-season with Brown, it was a consequence of how badly he and his 'agent' duffed the spring/summer of 2022.

I have no problem saying Veach made a mistake if I think he did (I think he's about to). But in this case, OBJ operated strangely and/or in bad faith and in so doing wrote his own ticket to Cincinnati.

Brown is just a really odd guy. I don't miss him. If Robinson signs and works out to be the slightly above average player I think he'll be, that's a swap I'm content making.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

Lol oh boy. Still off your meds today I see.

Well aware of all that. Veach clearly didn’t prioritize re-signing him or negotiations would never have soured to the point they did.

He thought he could get equal production at a better value and more importantly he underestimated the value in the fact that Patrick trusted OBJ.

He gambled and lost. It happens sometimes.

Gambling and losing is going to the next two Super Bowls and winning one of them?

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

If we could go back in time. I would have locked up OBJ when we had the chance.

Rare misstep by Veach there.

Veach had an offer worth 4 million AAV on the table OVER what OBJ ended up signing for. Blaming him for OBJ and his agent being imbeciles is ****ing reeruned.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

Lol oh boy. Still off your meds today I see.

Well aware of all that. Veach clearly didn’t prioritize re-signing him or negotiations would never have soured to the point they did.

He thought he could get equal production at a better value and more importantly he underestimated the value in the fact that Patrick trusted OBJ.

He gambled and lost. It happens sometimes.

But...he did.

First Brown wouldn't engage because he wanted to do it on his own. Then when he tried to do it on his own it was evidently a fools errand. Then he wanted to get an agent and slow-walked the hell out of it. Then when he got the agent he hired someone with no experience "Because I don't want him to be part of the old boys network" and that guy didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

Veach absolutely approached the 2022 offseason with Brown as a priority. And in the 2023 off-season he COULDN'T prioritize Brown anymore because Brown was a damn flake the year prior and we couldn't let him hold the off-season hostage again.

This ain't the place to plant a flag.

You're just wrong.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Veach had an offer worth 4 million AAV on the table OVER what OBJ ended up signing for. Blaming him for OBJ and his agent being imbeciles is ****ing reeruned.

Yeah -- we're buying him books here and he's eating the pages.

He simply doesn't have the facts straight. He'd be wise to pull the ejection handle on this one.

We all eat a little shit from time time.

[SHOWTIME]

I don't think Veach is going to pay top $ for a LT. He's targeting one in the draft. And I think he's hinted that this is the approach the chiefs are going to take.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

I don't think Veach is going to pay top $ for a LT. He's targeting one in the draft. And I think he's hinted that this is the approach the chiefs are going to take.

Everyone is looking for a LT in the draft.

Unfortunately, there is only one guy in the draft that considered sure to stick at LT. And KC won’t get a chance at him. I don’t expect KC to be thinking it can solve LT from this draft. At least not for 2025.

They’re going to either sign Cam Robinson or sign Humphries and have him compete (probably while taking another stab at a T in the draft). I’d go get Jedrick Wills, too, if they go the Humphries route and just try to create as much competition as possible.

[RunKC]

Well guys, the obvious answer here is Cam Robinson. And honestly he’s not a bad option all things considered.

He’s a similar version of Donovan Smith but younger, has more system experience and isn’t a brokedick. People wanted Donovan Smith…well here he is.

Don’t think he’s gonna have a big market either. Can’t think of a team besides us and the Patriots that need a starting LT, and the Patriots probably won’t touch him bc they have a great shot at getting Will Campbell.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Bump

this team could be a little tired. I wouldn't even be mad if they had a shitty season next year, get a rest it's deserved go on vacation early and get some 1st round draft talent at LT. I don't want that to happen but I'm just saying I wouldn't be mad about it if it did.

If this happens the meltdown will be epic.