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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!

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Old 11-06-2018, 03:38 PM   #18961
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:47 PM   #18962
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No. You wouldn't. You need to re-calibrate your needle for defense in this league, gents. We're absolutely within sniffing distance of the defense of any contender in this league. You're just gonna have to live with that for now and bank on player development helping out. That or you're going to have to take assets off that offense; rob Peter to pay Paul. I'm not willing to do so.
What it comes down to for me is whether or not the defense is good enough to at least "disrupt" elite offenses.

The Saints performance against the Rams is a perfect example. Yes, they gave up 35 points, but you know what? We will win 90% of our games against elite offenses if we hold them to 35 points.

The defense can't however, perform as they did in the first half against the Pats or the 2nd half against the Steelers. Yes, we beat the Steelers - but it makes those games a coin-flip if not a roll of the dice in January. And history has proven, defenses that porous make it really tough to win three straight in January.

If the defense can at least disrupt opposing offenses at least occasionally - I'll be happy. That's what I'm looking for against the Rams and the Chargers.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:03 PM   #18963
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What it comes down to for me is whether or not the defense is good enough to at least "disrupt" elite offenses.

The Saints performance against the Rams is a perfect example. Yes, they gave up 35 points, but you know what? We will win 90% of our games against elite offenses if we hold them to 35 points.

The defense can't however, perform as they did in the first half against the Pats or the 2nd half against the Steelers. Yes, we beat the Steelers - but it makes those games a coin-flip if not a roll of the dice in January. And history has proven, defenses that porous make it really tough to win three straight in January.

If the defense can at least disrupt opposing offenses at least occasionally - I'll be happy. That's what I'm looking for against the Rams and the Chargers.
They gave up 1 score in the 2nd half of that Steelers game prior to Conley fumbling and the Chiefs just trying to bleed clock. They had one absolute shit quarter against Pittsburgh where they gave up 21 but outside of that, the defense did exactly what you're asking for; they played....fine.

Not great, mind you, but okay.

4 stops. That's what they need; just 4 stops. And with a mostly healthy roster and increased cohesion from a defense that was rebuilt over the offseason (in an era where practice time is reduced), I think that's a very makeable goal.

They'll need to prove it in the post-season to get that shit taste out of our mouths from the absolutely awful Patriots performance (especially the 1st half), but I think they can do it.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:08 PM   #18964
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Quick throws like Brady

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Old 11-06-2018, 04:15 PM   #18965
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:19 PM   #18966
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It used to be considered a joke to compare him to the greats. Now, it's reality.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:24 PM   #18967
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:27 PM   #18968
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They gave up 1 score in the 2nd half of that Steelers game prior to Conley fumbling and the Chiefs just trying to bleed clock. They had one absolute shit quarter against Pittsburgh where they gave up 21 but outside of that, the defense did exactly what you're asking for; they played....fine.

Not great, mind you, but okay.

4 stops. That's what they need; just 4 stops. And with a mostly healthy roster and increased cohesion from a defense that was rebuilt over the offseason (in an era where practice time is reduced), I think that's a very makeable goal.

They'll need to prove it in the post-season to get that shit taste out of our mouths from the absolutely awful Patriots performance (especially the 1st half), but I think they can do it.
I completely forgot about Conley’s fumble. That dude has had some unfortunate errors in what’s likely a job defining season in this offense.

I agree - the Pitt game is what I’m looking for - I spaced on the specifics in that second half.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:47 PM   #18969
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:48 PM   #18970
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Accuracy of Marino
Boy, he doesn't have Marino's release though.

He's got a little more dip and windup on his throw. Doesn't mean much since the ball flies out at a trillion miles per hour, breaking the sound barrier and warping time/space.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:58 PM   #18971
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Boy, he doesn't have Marino's release though.

He's got a little more dip and windup on his throw. Doesn't mean much since the ball flies out at a trillion miles per hour, breaking the sound barrier and warping time/space.
PMII has different launch points like Favre and his release is more like Warren Moon's
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I've never seen anybody whip it out faster than Marino.


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Old 11-06-2018, 05:00 PM   #18973
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I've never seen anybody whip it out faster than Marino.


Maybe Favre?

Marino's release is the quickest I've ever seen.

Jeff George supposedly timed quicker, but on the field Marino's bested George's by far.
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