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Old 01-23-2011, 11:58 AM  
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Off Season Lets Talk Guns, Part 2

Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

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Old 07-03-2018, 08:40 AM   #1876
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308 is too expensive. I almost bought one a few months ago, but got a handgun and a pile of ar15 lowers instead. My club only goes 100 yds out, no use pulling the trigger at .75 cents a round for that.


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Old 07-03-2018, 01:00 PM   #1877
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A couple of years ago I purchased a DPMS AR-10. Didn't really expect too much from it - but I'll be damned if it isn't a fine, high quality rifle. That SOB will drive tacks at 400 yards with iron sights and 700-900 years with a Leupold.

Nothing in the world wrong with a AR-10 - but a year later, my kids went together and bought me a Springfield M1A. SO…the AR doesn't see a lot of "playing time" these days
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Old 07-03-2018, 01:07 PM   #1878
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A couple of years ago I purchased a DPMS AR-10. Didn't really expect too much from it - but I'll be damned if it isn't a fine, high quality rifle. That SOB will drive tacks at 400 yards with iron sights and 700-900 years with a Leupold.

Nothing in the world wrong with a AR-10 - but a year later, my kids went together and bought me a Springfield M1A. SO…the AR doesn't see a lot of "playing time" these days
That's where I'm at - I already have an M1A. Just can't justify the expense of getting an AR-10.
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Old 07-04-2018, 10:37 PM   #1879
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I’ve decided to build an AR pistol. My Tavor is just too heavy with the attached suppressor.

I’m going as light as possible. I ordered a PSA lower with an enhanced polished trigger, MaGpul grip, and an SB tactical brace. The brace was the main reason I bought it. The brace alone is $140 on Gunbroker.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...165448150.html

I’m needing to find a 10.5” complete upper. I don’t care what the hand guard looks like. I’m throwing this bad boy on it. It doesn’t get much lighter than this.
It’s 6.15oz for the 9”.

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Old 07-06-2018, 07:08 PM   #1880
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Could have bought a complete palmetto pistol with bcg and charging handle, sb brace and mlok handgaurd for 499 this week.

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Old 07-06-2018, 07:20 PM   #1881
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I must have been too late. I’d jump all over that now.
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Old 07-06-2018, 07:24 PM   #1882
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I’ve decided to build an AR pistol. My Tavor is just too heavy with the attached suppressor.

I’m going as light as possible. I ordered a PSA lower with an enhanced polished trigger, MaGpul grip, and an SB tactical brace. The brace was the main reason I bought it. The brace alone is $140 on Gunbroker.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...165448150.html

I’m needing to find a 10.5” complete upper. I don’t care what the hand guard looks like. I’m throwing this bad boy on it. It doesn’t get much lighter than this.
It’s 6.15oz for the 9”.

https://brigandarms.com/product/atlas/#reviews
I hope this is for personal use and not for your job? I’ve shot an AR pistol before and it’s very loud and it throws a huge flame out the muzzle, like a foot long or more, I can’t imagine shooting it in low light or dark...
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Old 07-06-2018, 07:28 PM   #1883
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I hope this is for personal use and not for your job? I’ve shot an AR pistol before and it’s very loud and it throws a huge flame out the muzzle, like a foot long or more, I can’t imagine shooting it in low light or dark...
This is for work. I don’t know what you were shooting but I have yet to see a huge flame come out of a 10.5” barrel. A few guys carry an AR pistol with a 10.5” barrel and they aren’t much louder than a 16”.

Now a 7.5” barrel is loud and I have no use for a 7.5” barrel.
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:15 AM   #1884
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This is for work. I don’t know what you were shooting but I have yet to see a huge flame come out of a 10.5” barrel. A few guys carry an AR pistol with a 10.5” barrel and they aren’t much louder than a 16”.

Now a 7.5” barrel is loud and I have no use for a 7.5” barrel.
I shot a true AR pistol, the buffer tube was about as long as the barrel. It was fun to shoot but honestly, IMHO, it's little more than a novelty gun. Again, the blast is very loud and the flame out the muzzle is very big. If I'm a cop, I'm advertising to every bad guy with a gun, where I am if it's at low light or night. Plus, I'm blinding myself every time I pull the trigger. Also, the 5.56 is a rifle cartridge, not a pistol cartridge, the bullet looses much of it's power when coming out of such a short barrel.

So you have a big bang with a big flash, but you are firing a small bullet with diminished power. But if you are using the longer, 10.5 barrel, it may be a little more effective.

I value law enforcement too much to advise them to use this as a tool for doing their job, again, JMHO.
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I shot a true AR pistol, the buffer tube was about as long as the barrel. It was fun to shoot but honestly, IMHO, it's little more than a novelty gun. Again, the blast is very loud and the flame out the muzzle is very big. If I'm a cop, I'm advertising to every bad guy with a gun, where I am if it's at low light or night. Plus, I'm blinding myself every time I pull the trigger. Also, the 5.56 is a rifle cartridge, not a pistol cartridge, the bullet looses much of it's power when coming out of such a short barrel.

So you have a big bang with a big flash, but you are firing a small bullet with diminished power. But if you are using the longer, 10.5 barrel, it may be a little more effective.

I value law enforcement too much to advise them to use this as a tool for doing their job, again, JMHO.
I’ll agree with you on a 7.5” barrel. That is very loud and I only know one person who carries a 7.5” nobody likes being around him at the range. I’m not sure why they allow him to carry it anyways. Pretty sure a 7.5” voids my suppressor warranty. For me, a 7.5” wasn’t even an option. I don’t like the look of them either.

I know several who carry a 10.5” without any issues. You still get solid range out of them and they aren’t loud. It’s what many use when they build SBR’s.
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Old 07-08-2018, 02:16 PM   #1886
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I’ll agree with you on a 7.5” barrel. That is very loud and I only know one person who carries a 7.5” nobody likes being around him at the range. I’m not sure why they allow him to carry it anyways. Pretty sure a 7.5” voids my suppressor warranty. For me, a 7.5” wasn’t even an option. I don’t like the look of them either.

I know several who carry a 10.5” without any issues. You still get solid range out of them and they aren’t loud. It’s what many use when they build SBR’s.

Back in the Army (80s) I had the opportunity to fire a "port gun" from the Bradleys. Fun as hell to shoot, but ridiculous. I "think" that was the impetus for the AR pistol

Obviously they don't fire from the open bolt at 800 rounds a minute - but about the same dimensions.

I don't know - to each his own I guess….but I'll stick with my .45
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I carried a 1911 .45 for many years of my life (thanks Navy!!) and I loved it (thanks Navy!!). I still prefer it, but my decision to go the 9mm route with my Walther PPX "Navy" (LOL!!!) is 100% based on ammo costs.

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I carried a 1911 .45 for many years of my life (thanks Navy!!) and I loved it (thanks Navy!!). I still prefer it, but my decision to go the 9mm route with my Walther PPX "Navy" (LOL!!!) is 100% based on ammo costs.

But the .45 is simply awesome!


All this damned "Navy" talk………


Wait…I have a SIG P226 Navy……………….Nevermind…..

Still prefer my Springfield 1911 and the SIG P220……can't teach a old dog new calibers…..
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