Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 126

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

vailpass · 09-29-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

It was strictly a financial question about small schools in big conferences that aren't successful in athletics, but are protected by being a part of the conference. Would the Big 10 dump Northwestern if they could get Notre Dame? Would the SEC dump Miss. State if they could get Texas?

The point being made was if it's all about TV, why would these conferences bat an eye at dumping irrelevant programs?

Oh, I see what you meant. Thanks for clarifying.
I think academics also come into play in B10. Nwestern is a jewel in that regard.

Stewie · 09-29-2011, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

You don't think Nebraska/Iowa, Nebraska/OSU could be good?

There's no history in those games that matter.

ChiefsCountry · 09-29-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

Nobody cares about long commutes in the non con, but when its a conference game: OH MY GOODNESS!

Big XVI

Northeast Quad:

Iowa St
Cincinnati
Missouri
West Virginia

Northwest Quad:

Air Force
Kansas
Kansas St
BYU

Southwest Quad:

Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU

Southeast Quad:

Oklahoma
Oklahoma St
South Florida
Louisville

Football would have a "rotating divisional" format:

Year 1 West/East Alignment:

Northwest/Southwest vs Northeast/Southeast

Year 2 North/South Alignment

Northwest/Northeast vs Southwest/Southeast

Year 3 Cross-compass Alignment

Northwest/Southeast vs Northeast/Southwest

Teams play all teams in their alignment = 7 conference games
Teams play one permanent rivalry or rotated inter-alignment game = 8 games
Optional rotated inter-alignment game depending on how many non conference games the conference wants = 9 games

Champions from each "division" play each other in championship game.

Basketball could follow the same format, home and away "in division" for 14 games; and half home half away against opposite division for a total of 22 conference games. Could hold the first two rounds at separate sites on Tue/Wed, a travel day Thr, and the Final Four in KC on Fri/Sat.

If you are doing all of those quads here is the smarter one:

East
Cincinnati
Louisville
USF
West Virginia

North
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri

West
Air Force
BYU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State

South
Baylor
Texas
TCU
Texas Tech

vailpass · 09-29-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

The University of Chicago has a standing invite to the Big 10.

Our gpa would go up a little. Doesn't UC have only around 4000 students or so?

Stewie · 09-29-2011, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass

Academics also come into play in B10. Nwestern is a jewel in that regard.

If I hear one more time about academics in all of this, I'm going to take a hostage!

vailpass · 09-29-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

There's no history in those games that matter.

Yeah it will take a generation or so before it becomes real. I still con't consider Penn State to be a bona fide B10 school; not by consciuos decision but because that's how it feels.

vailpass · 09-29-2011, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

If I hear one more time about academics in all of this, I'm going to take a hostage!

That may not be the case in your conference but it is a factor for others. B10 is one of them. It isn't the only factor but it is a factor.

Titty Meat · 09-29-2011, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

There's no history in those games that matter.

Nebraska/Iowa will be a rivarly because of the border and both schools field pretty good teams. Nebraska/OSU, Nebraska/Pen State, Nebraska/Michigan all could become potential rivalries 1. because of history 2. potential success.

Stewie · 09-29-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

That may not be the case in your conference but it is a factor for others. B10 is one of them. It isn't the only factor but it is a factor.

You admitted Nebraska! ****ing Nebraska!

**Saulbadguy** · 09-29-2011, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

You don't think Nebraska/Iowa, Nebraska/OSU could be good?

LOL, as much as Iowa/Illinois sends ripples across the college football landscape.

Pants · 09-29-2011, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass

I think academics also come into play in B10. Nwestern is a jewel in that regard.

vailpass · 09-29-2011, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

You admitted Nebraska! ****ing Nebraska!

All B10 are AAU, NU was AAU at the time of admission. Pisses me off they lost it. Interesting how it happened....

After endorsing the University of Nebraska-Lincoln's entrance into the Big Ten Conference -- in part because of its academic strength -- leaders at the universities of Wisconsin and Michigan apparently helped oust UNL from an elite academic group, according to documents reviewed by the Journal Star.

Nebraska failed to garner the 21 votes it needed last April to remain in the Association of American Universities, a confederation of more than 60 top research institutions that collectively nets more than half of all federal research funds and awards more than half of the doctoral degrees in the nation. It was confirmed that UNL fell three votes short.

Emails and letters obtained by the Journal Star after a series of open-records requests indicate that Wisconsin and Michigan did not support UNL during its turbulent and unsuccessful AAU membership review earlier this year....

Read more: http://journalstar.com/news/local/ed...#ixzz1ZNbkAJ8I

RustShack · 09-29-2011, 03:40 PM

Iowa/Nebraska is a match made in heaven.

Stewie · 09-29-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

All B10 are AAU, NU was AAU at the time of admission. Pisses me off they lost it. Interesting how it happened....

After endorsing the University of Nebraska-Lincoln's entrance into the Big Ten Conference -- in part because of its academic strength -- leaders at the universities of Wisconsin and Michigan apparently helped oust UNL from an elite academic group, according to documents reviewed by the Journal Star.

Nebraska failed to garner the 21 votes it needed last April to remain in the Association of American Universities, a confederation of more than 60 top research institutions that collectively nets more than half of all federal research funds and awards more than half of the doctoral degrees in the nation. It was confirmed that UNL fell three votes short.

Emails and letters obtained by the Journal Star after a series of open-records requests indicate that Wisconsin and Michigan did not support UNL during its turbulent and unsuccessful AAU membership review earlier this year....

Read more: http://journalstar.com/news/local/ed...#ixzz1ZNbkAJ8I

That's all fine, but it takes really poor performance to be booted from the AAU if you're a standing member. Nebraska knew this was coming. If it was about academics Missouri would be in the Big 10 now. It wasn't about academics at all.

vailpass · 09-29-2011, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants

Do you disagree that academics are a factor in the B10s membership decision process, or do you disagree that Nwestern is a jewel in that regard?

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
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