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Old Yesterday, 10:06 AM   #1831
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It doesn't matter how he looks you dumb **** we have the GPS times to show he is insanely fast on the field too.
People don’t watch the replays often. That Kelce catch in the 2nd half where he was wide open was bc Worthy was roaring downfield and the safety covering Kelce pissed his pants bc Worthy was bolting.

Completely took that ****er out of the play and left Kelce wide ass open
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Nobody is bitching. People are critiquing what they are seeing, because this is a message board where we discuss these things.

You literally have a post in this very thread bitching about how we didn’t take Keon Coleman instead of Worthy
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People don’t watch the replays often. That Kelce catch in the 2nd half where he was wide open was bc Worthy was roaring downfield and the safety covering Kelce pissed his pants bc Worthy was bolting.

Completely took that ****er out of the play and left Kelce wide ass open
Right.

Again - this isn't a Skyy Moore situation where every time he's on the field I just groaned. Because he didn't provide anything. You were playing 10 v 11.

Worthy simply being out there helps this offense. There's genuine gravity with that guy where he helps his teammates find space. And that's valuable in its own right.

But lets not also act like we're not discussing "Hidden Touchdowns" here. Or that we haven't barbecued folks we don't like when the defenses of that guys play are as tepid as these can be.

He's struggled - full stop. Has that meant the pick hasn't helped us? No, not at all. But I really hoped we'd see more forward progress from him by now. And with the opportunities he's had, it's fair to point out that he really does seem stuck in neutral right now.
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Right.

Again - this isn't a Skyy Moore situation where every time he's on the field I just groaned. Because he didn't provide anything. You were playing 10 v 11.

Worthy simply being out there helps this offense. There's genuine gravity with that guy where he helps his teammates find space. And that's valuable in its own right.

But lets not also act like we're not discussing "Hidden Touchdowns" here. Or that we haven't barbecued folks we don't like when the defenses of that guys play are as tepid as these can be.

He's struggled - full stop. Has that meant the pick hasn't helped us? No, not at all. But I really hoped we'd see more forward progress from him by now. And with the opportunities he's had, it's fair to point out that he really does seem stuck in neutral right now.
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He’s not just great at speed, assholes. He’s also excellent at tracking the ball down the field.

Tyreek was electric to watch for his speed. He was elite because he was the best in the game at tracking the ball down the field.

Worthy isn’t Reek, but he’ll get there. He can be useful. He’s already been useful.

**** guys can you quit your stupid bitching about rookie struggles for just one goddamn minute
Haven't you been paying attention Worthy is a bust
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Here’s the replay. Just a bad mental error. He was falling back catching the ball too. Gotta know the sideline is there and stay in bounds. Should have been an easy TD

This is a rookie thing though. It’s mental and not ability. This is easy to fix
Now, so as to not COMPLETELY shit on Worthy here - I thought Mahomes was late on the throw.

That play happened right in front of us and man, you could see it break open almost immediately. As soon as that boundary corner gave up outside leverage, you could see Worthy had an easy pitch and catch for a score.

And for whatever reason it looked like PM hesitated. Typically on a play like that, by the time you notice the WR then look back to the QB, the QB is releasing the football. Patrick was still setting up and took even one extra hop on it. He was late on the throw and Worthy looked to try to be slowing down in the zone to keep that throwing window open.

If Mahomes hits that ball as soon as it breaks open, it's a far far FAR easier play for Worthy.

So while that's a bad mental error on Worthy's part, PM wasn't completely without blame. He acted like he just didn't trust what he was seeing because I'm telling you, that play was right in front of him and open from the jump. But for whatever reason, he just didn't let it rip.
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Here’s the replay. Just a bad mental error. He was falling back catching the ball too. Gotta know the sideline is there and stay in bounds. Should have been an easy TD

This is a rookie thing though. It’s mental and not ability. This is easy to fix
Man.....this is bad.

The mental thing can sometimes be the toughest
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You literally have a post in this very thread bitching about how we didn’t take Keon Coleman instead of Worthy
I actually said I preferred Worthy due to how we run our offense but that Coleman was the better player just not suited for our offense.

But yeah we are here to give our opinions. I welcome all opinions even if dissenting.
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No, both feet were out for sure. Just an exceptionally lazy play. I'm sure Andy had a discussion with him
Andy, "This aint Texas. We are not going to score 54 points a game. Every TD matters. Pay attention or.....".
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Man.....this is bad.

The mental thing can sometimes be the toughest
I think if we run that play in the 2nd quarter (and definitely in the 2nd half) it's a TD.

Because lets also remember that on the next play, where PM got sacked, he had an EASY checkdown to hit. And again seemed to hesitate before he got decked up the middle to take us out of FG range.

Patrick seemed to be feeling his way a bit in that first drive. Just not quite as assertive as he was for the rest of the game. If he runs that play with the kind of confidence he played with in the 2nd half, there's little doubt in my mind that it's a TD.

He was damn good yesterday - as good as he's been this season, IMO. But on that first drive he seemed a hair tentative and that hurt us.
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Now, so as to not COMPLETELY shit on Worthy here - I thought Mahomes was late on the throw.

That play happened right in front of us and man, you could see it break open almost immediately. As soon as that boundary corner gave up outside leverage, you could see Worthy had an easy pitch and catch for a score.

And for whatever reason it looked like PM hesitated. Typically on a play like that, by the time you notice the WR then look back to the QB, the QB is releasing the football. Patrick was still setting up and took even one extra hop on it. He was late on the throw and Worthy looked to try to be slowing down in the zone to keep that throwing window open.

If Mahomes hits that ball as soon as it breaks open, it's a far far FAR easier play for Worthy.

So while that's a bad mental error on Worthy's part, PM wasn't completely without blame. He acted like he just didn't trust what he was seeing because I'm telling you, that play was right in front of him and open from the jump. But for whatever reason, he just didn't let it rip.
Mahomes had to play the safety off with his eyes and then float the ball into that void in their zone. Seemed like it was 100% on Worthy being a lost rookie. Worthy does have good hands and you can't teach speed and getting playing time with a HOF like Hopkins should show him the light.
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Crazy how fast we’ve gone from thinking we screwed over the Bills (again) and stole Worthy from them to now many wishing we had drafted the guy the Bills drafted. Time will tell who made the right choice here (and it could be both teams added good/useful players).
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Crazy how fast we’ve gone from thinking we screwed over the Bills (again) and stole Worthy from them to now many wishing we had drafted the guy the Bills drafted. Time will tell who made the right choice here (and it could be both teams added good/useful players).
Nope Worthy will score twice on Buffalo. We own them. Coleman is basically jump ball boy.
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Man.....this is bad.

The mental thing can sometimes be the toughest
It looked to me like if he reaches out and catches that ball with his hands, instead of waiting for it to come into his body, he would have had the room to make the catch and probably score!

A very disappointing outing for Mr. Worthy. I have to admit, like some others that I started to think about Hardman during this game. Yikes

I dont think anyone is saying he IS Hardman but the comparison at this point is there.

Patrick does NOT trust him at all yet. Seems like he gets a shot every game but somehow it doesnt work, then Patrick looks elsewhere the rest of the game.

Like Hardman, he gets a shot, messes it up then they give him the reverse (trick) play. He messed that up too.

Of course No ONE is giving up on the Rook but so far there isnt much to feel like hes going to contribute much this year. He does scare defenses and clear out some zones which is helpful. However I have seen many plays where he himself is breaking open and Patrick wont throw it.

When you look at that list of Rookie WRs and what they have been able to contribute to their teams so far it stings a little bit. Especially with how bad we need him to step up.

No doubt Hopkins will teach him how to be a pro which is fantastic. I feel like he will figure it out as the season goes on.

Also feel like he will be this years "Corn Dog" and catch the SuperBowl winning reception!
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