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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

|Zach| · 09-28-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Adding a photo to the end of a post doesn't make Mizzou football more badass.

Sorry bro-ski.

No no. But the implication that they smiled across the room and sent all these teams for the doors by raiderhader absolutely does.

mnchiefsguy · 09-28-2011, 12:54 PM

Apparently a plane went from Columbia MO to Birmingham AL yesterday. NBC Sports says Mizzou to the SEC is still an option:

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...inues-to-grow/

DJ's left nut · 09-28-2011, 01:05 PM

I'm hearing some weird shit around Columbia about a couple of BoC members being canned and a couple others that may not be approved in time to get a vote in in their stead.

Nobody seems to have a really good idea what's going on, but the gist is that outright politics (not even football related) could stall the legislative session and keep these new appointments from being made. If so, the BoC either A) lacks the votes or B) can't actually meet to approve a move to the SEC.

I'm sure more details will emerge, but it seems like a move may have hit another snag even as the 'smoke' gets a little thicker.

mnchiefsguy · 09-28-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm hearing some weird shit around Columbia about a couple of BoC members being canned and a couple others that may not be approved in time to get a vote in in their stead.

Nobody seems to have a really good idea what's going on, but the gist is that outright politics (not even football related) could stall the legislative session and keep these new appointments from being made. If so, the BoC either A) lacks the votes or B) can't actually meet to approve a move to the SEC.

I'm sure more details will emerge, but it seems like a move may have hit another snag even as the 'smoke' gets a little thicker.

I did see one twitter about Jay Nixon appointing new curators that would support a conference move, but it did not appear to be a legitimate source, and sounded pretty far fetched, so I did not post it.

beer bacon · 09-28-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm hearing some weird shit around Columbia about a couple of BoC members being canned and a couple others that may not be approved in time to get a vote in in their stead.

Nobody seems to have a really good idea what's going on, but the gist is that outright politics (not even football related) could stall the legislative session and keep these new appointments from being made. If so, the BoC either A) lacks the votes or B) can't actually meet to approve a move to the SEC.

I'm sure more details will emerge, but it seems like a move may have hit another snag even as the 'smoke' gets a little thicker.

There are only five curators needed for a quorum. If two of the seven were canned, that is still five. Only a simple majority of that five would be needed to pass anything.

Setsuna · 09-28-2011, 01:31 PM

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eazyb81 · 09-28-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm hearing some weird shit around Columbia about a couple of BoC members being canned and a couple others that may not be approved in time to get a vote in in their stead.

Nobody seems to have a really good idea what's going on, but the gist is that outright politics (not even football related) could stall the legislative session and keep these new appointments from being made. If so, the BoC either A) lacks the votes or B) can't actually meet to approve a move to the SEC.

I'm sure more details will emerge, but it seems like a move may have hit another snag even as the 'smoke' gets a little thicker.

It is more that we want to make 100% sure the votes are in place before an actual vote is taken, rather than not having the votes right now. The two appointments in limbo are pro-SEC, which is why we have delayed the BoC meeting until Tuesday (and potentially could be delayed beyond that if needed).

Just taking extra precaution to avoid any egg on face, which this Mizzou fan definitely appreciates. Have patience.

DJ's left nut · 09-28-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

I did see one twitter about Jay Nixon appointing new curators that would support a conference move, but it did not appear to be a legitimate source, and sounded pretty far fetched, so I did not post it.

I don't understand it well enough to 'report' it, but I figured maybe someone around here knew it better than I did so I could get a little more detail on it.

Eh, to hell with it, back to waiting for a result. I'm really tired of this already.

mnchiefsguy · 09-28-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I don't understand it well enough to 'report' it, but I figured maybe someone around here knew it better than I did so I could get a little more detail on it.

Eh, to hell with it, back to waiting for a result. I'm really tired of this already.

I think once it is in the hands of the curators, it because less of an athletic issue and more of a political one.

beer bacon · 09-28-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

It is more that we want to make 100% sure the votes are in place before an actual vote is taken, rather than not having the votes right now. The two appointments in limbo are pro-SEC, which is why we have delayed the BoC meeting until Tuesday (and potentially could be delayed beyond that if needed).

Just taking extra precaution to avoid any egg on face, which this Mizzou fan definitely appreciates. Have patience.

On that note, this guy, who covers Texas A&M, says our university leadership met with SEC Commish Slive yesterday. He also that SEC had set a "deadline" for this Friday, but since we can't get the curators together until next Tuesday, the "deadline" has been pushed to next Wednesday.

http://twitter.com/#!/HopWebsider

**Bowser** · 09-28-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

On that note, this guy, who covers Texas A&M, says our university leadership met with SEC Commish Slive yesterday. He also that SEC had set a "deadline" for this Friday, but since we can't get the curators together until next Tuesday, the "deadline" has been pushed to next Wednesday.

http://twitter.com/#!/HopWebsider

No way Mizzou leaves, right? Right?

Frazod · 09-28-2011, 02:22 PM

Starting to smell like the Forces of Darkness are sabotaging this from within.

beer bacon · 09-28-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Starting to smell like the Forces of Darkness are sabotaging this from within.

Sounds like the exact opposite to me. It sounds like the university has already made their decision, and next Tuesday/Wednesday it will be official.

**Bowser** · 09-28-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

Sounds like the exact opposite to me. It sounds like the university has already made their decision, and next Tuesday/Wednesday it will be official.

In your opinion, are they staying or going?

beer bacon · 09-28-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

In your opinion, are they staying or going?

Going.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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