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16 | 14.16% |
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16 | 14.16% |
I don't live in Jackson County, but would vote Yes |
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59 | 52.21% |
I don't live in Jackson County, but would vote No |
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22 | 19.47% |
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#1786 | |
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Every word of this is nonsense based on nothing. Listen to the podcast before posting for all our sakes |
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Who needs tailgating when you'll have a Bucee's right by the stadium. I hear their brisket sandwiches are really good. You can pick up a six-pack, too, and drink it in the parking lot. 🤪
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I was at Mexico vs Uruguay tonight.
You don't want the World Cup.
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Not that it was your point, and I could be mistaken, but I don't think Buc-ee's sells alcohol....not that I've noticed anyway.
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The use of STAR bonds to build the stadium in Kansas seems like it would be questionable. The proposal right now is that it would fund the entire building. Those are not guaranteed bonds, so think about what an investor has to consider in terms of whether sales tax revenue from the stadium events will pay them off. Let's say they get 500 games with 70,000 fans at each. That's 35 million. Let's say each fan spends $400 and sales tax is 10%. That's only 1.4 billion. The stadium supposedly will cost 2 or 3 billion. That seems like a bad bet for an investor. I sure as hell wouldn't plan on a NFL Stadium having 500 big crowds over its lifetime. That would take decades to achieve, given that typically a team plays fewer than 12 games at home a year.
I don't think Kansans are so naive that they will let this proposal go through. It is based on crazily optimistic assumptions. |
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#1791 |
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The average fan cost is closer to $700 than $400.
And that's just today.
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what does the average Kansan have to do with risk to an investor buying bonds in one of the safest sports for one of the safest teams? Also doing math is really stupid unless you have all of the figures and you clearly don’t you’re just shooting in the dark |
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Also, doing math on the main elements of what drives the prospects for paying off the investors is what most investors will be doing when they decide whether to make the investment. There has already been a default on a STAR bond project, the Prariefires development. If very optimistic assumptions about total attendance and sales tax revenues don't put one in the ballpark of a plausible path to the bonds being paid, that's a big problem for the folks selling pie in the sky. That's why Missouri lawmakers aren't panicked about this latest con. |
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FIFA was willing to show some grace to a venue built fifty years ago.
The whole fashion now is to build new in central areas that can have a lot of people walk to the venues or use public transportation. You have to be a ****ing fool to think NCAA of NFL would want to host big events at some suburban dome. Pontiac Silverdome in 1981 is the last Super Bowl at a dome in the suburbs. Final Four at Tropicana Field about 15 years ago is the last one at a suburban dome. Chiefs are never going to build there, but say that they did, They might get one Super Bowl that will not be great and never get another one.
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What podcast? Asshole. Is there some credible podcast that has some shithead saying that World Cup 2026 at Arrowhead was not the biggest thing that KC has ever successfully bid on and one that is not personally meaningful to the Hunt family? Is there some dumbass podcast that says the Super Bowl LVII rings for the Chiefs do not say that Lamar Hunt says that Arrowhead Stadium is his favorite place on Earth? Go ahead and listen to your podcast for shitheads that do not know anything about anything.
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Why would the Chiefs need to be swindled into some stupid shit that undermines their goal to keep playing at Arrowhead after January 2031 and to have World Cup 2026 at Arrowhead be the biggest success possible in tribute to Lamar Hunt and all the people who worked so hard to have a successful bid? Even if Chiefs are playing in a new venue sometime after 2031. They could still play additional years at Arrowhead in the meantime. I guess the reason dumbass polticians get attention for bullshit, is that naive folks buy into these dramatic suspenseful deadlines that nobody on the Chiefs gives a shit about.
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oh okay lol drink antifreeze then |
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They carry a risk for the investors that buy the bonds, not normal Kansas taxpayers. Prairiefire is a dumb shopping center with a museum nobody cares about. The Speedway was built on STAR bonds and was so successful it was paid off really early so there's you success story. |
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So that is the podcast that has your dumbass not knowing shit about shit. the drink antifreeze podcast?
Tell me exactly what your genius mind says is going to happen as far as the venue where the Chiefs play games after January 2031 and maybe you can explain how indifferent the Hunt family is about hosting World Cup 2026 and really does not give a shit about Arrowhead no matter what the Super Bowl LVII Rings say. Stupid Asshole.
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