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Old 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM  
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Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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Old 02-10-2025, 02:32 PM   #166
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Feel free to name who the Chiefs should have acquired there bc the list is pretty much non-existent
Donovan Smith. At worst he's just like that fat bitch DJ Hufflepuffs and suits up for a game or two to suck shit, and maybe he does what he did in 2023 and performs just well enough that Mahomes can comfortably function.
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Old 02-10-2025, 02:32 PM   #167
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pretty much anyone is better than what we had this year at LT...Mahomes doesn't need Jonathan Ogden protecting his blindside, just someone adequate.
I'd like some names.
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Old 02-10-2025, 02:33 PM   #168
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Donovan Smith is done. There’s a reason nobody gave a **** about him. Would be no different
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Old 02-10-2025, 02:33 PM   #169
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Feel free to name who the Chiefs should have acquired there bc the list is pretty much non-existent
Could have overpaid and traded up? Could have overpaid and traded for a vet? Could have not fuking left Kingsley on an island and ruined him.

Could have done a ton of different moves and while most would have included overpaying in value....I think we can all agree that we would have been fine doing so for a quality tackle.
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Could have overpaid and traded up? Could have overpaid and traded for a vet? Could have not fuking left Kingsley on an island and ruined him.

Could have done a ton of different moves and while most would have included overpaying in value....I think we can all agree that we would have been fine doing so for a quality tackle.
Your solution was to trade to 5 and draft Joe Alt, ok can't imagine how fun that would have been giving up like 4 1's.
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Donovan Smith is done. There’s a reason nobody gave a **** about him. Would be no different
Won't ever know because we wasted 4 million on Humpback to suck shit and look stupid on the sidelines instead.
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Old 02-10-2025, 02:42 PM   #172
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I don't want to trade up in the draft for a prospect. What if the guy we are moving up for ends up being shite like a lot of first round LTs. There are currently 31 LTs in the league that are better than what we have. Surely a couple of them are gettable.
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Old 02-10-2025, 02:45 PM   #173
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I'd like some names.
Jonah Williams went from CIN to AZ and would have been our highest grade OT.

Jermaine Eluemunor went from Vegas to Giants and again would have been a huge upgrade in pass blocking at tackle.

George Fant? Tyron Smith? Mekhi Becton? La'el Collins?

LOTS of names that would have been better on a rookie
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Your solution was to trade to 5 and draft Joe Alt, ok can't imagine how fun that would have been giving up like 4 1's.
Thats not what I'm saying.

I'm saying Veach didn't even TRY to go up and get a tackle they had higher ranked than Kingsly. IF Veach would have traded up and got a LT and for whatever reason that player got hurt or didn't play well, I could not blame Veach as he did try to get the best player even giving up value.
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Thats not what I'm saying.

I'm saying Veach didn't even TRY to go up and get a tackle they had higher ranked than Kingsly. IF Veach would have traded up and got a LT and for whatever reason that player got hurt or didn't play well, I could not blame Veach as he did try to get the best player even giving up value.
Why would you trade picks to go up and get a guy that's just like Kingsley? We've debated tackles in the draft forum for almost a half decade. Trading up into the late teens/early 20's has a HORRIBLE return rate.
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Old 02-10-2025, 02:55 PM   #176
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Jonah Williams went from CIN to AZ and would have been our highest grade OT.

Jermaine Eluemunor went from Vegas to Giants and again would have been a huge upgrade in pass blocking at tackle.

George Fant? Tyron Smith? Mekhi Becton? La'el Collins?

LOTS of names that would have been better on a rookie
Yep, there were tons of guys out there. Countless names, none of them great, but all proven LTs in this league at some point, or at least had potential like Becton. They did literally nothing besides draft Kingsley and pray.

It was a massive, incredible miscalculation that can never, ever be allowed to occur again. Ever. They should have figured that out after the Tampa Super Bowl, but if what happened last night and the look on Mahomes' face and in his mannerisms isn't enough to make them get it, I don't know what will be.
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I don't want to trade up in the draft for a prospect. What if the guy we are moving up for ends up being shite like a lot of first round LTs. There are currently 31 LTs in the league that are better than what we have. Surely a couple of them are gettable.
It's a risk but equally risky (and perhaps more so) to rely on Kingsley/Wanya or whatever free agent we can get at LT. As has been said before, LT is critically important position and if you can get a good one on a rookie deal, it sets you up for a long time because a) you can save at the league's 2nd most expensive position b) you can keep that player once their rookie deal is up rather than trying to scrounge for one.

The year for the Chiefs to trade up for an LT was last year. We didn't and paid the price last night. The next best year to try it is this year, even with a much weaker OT draft class.

Picks 31, 64 and 96 are about equal to #16 overall. Could we get a good LT there? I don't know. But I think I'd rather have #16 and #66 if we could solve LT than #31, #64, #66 and #96 and still have no LT.
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I don't want to trade up in the draft for a prospect. What if the guy we are moving up for ends up being shite like a lot of first round LTs. There are currently 31 LTs in the league that are better than what we have. Surely a couple of them are gettable.
Exactly, it's a ton of capital to give up if you want to move into the Top 8 of the Draft for a serious Left Tackle prospect. And then you hope he won't be a bust. If you're giving up a lot of capital, it might as well be for a proven veteran. But those are very hard to get as well.
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It's a risk but equally risky (and perhaps more so) to rely on Kingsley/Wanya or whatever free agent we can get at LT. As has been said before, LT is critically important position and if you can get a good one on a rookie deal, it sets you up for a long time because a) you can save at the league's 2nd most expensive position b) you can keep that player once their rookie deal is up rather than trying to scrounge for one.

The year for the Chiefs to trade up for an LT was last year. We didn't and paid the price last night. The next best year to try it is this year, even with a much weaker OT draft class.

Picks 31, 64 and 96 are about equal to #16 overall. Could we get a good LT there? I don't know. But I think I'd rather have #16 and #66 if we could solve LT than #31, #64, #66 and #96 and still have no LT.
16 really isn't high enough. That's the problem.
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I know it’s not what people want to hear but I’d bet our 1st round pick this year will be a CB and they’re going to try to develop Kingsley.
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