Eric Bieniemy is Available Again!

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Sources: Eric Bieniemy out after one season as UCLA's offensive coordinator

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/sources...174950381.html

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Eric Bieniemy’s UCLA tenure lasted a season.

The Bruins are moving on from Bieniemy, sources told Yahoo Sports’ Ross Dellenger. The former Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator and NFL running back joined UCLA’s staff in 2024 as the offensive coordinator and assistant head coach following the hire of Deshaun Foster as the team’s head coach.

UCLA went 5-7 in 2024 and was 3-6 in the Big Ten. The Bruins averaged 5.4 yards a play and scored just 18.4 points per game. Only eight teams across the top level of college football averaged fewer points than the Bruins and UCLA scored more than 20 points just twice all season.

Bieniemy, 55, interviewed multiple times for NFL head coaching positions while he was the Chiefs’ offensive coordinator. He joined Andy Reid’s staff in 2013 when Reid became the Chiefs’ head coach and was the team’s running backs coach through the 2017 season. He was promoted to offensive coordinator in 2018 as Patrick Mahomes became the team’s starting quarterback.

However, Bieniemy never got a head coaching job in the NFL and moved on from the Chiefs after the 2022 season. Five NFL teams had job openings that offseason and he interviewed for just one.

Bieniemy became the offensive coordinator for the Washington Commanders in 2023, but he spent just one season with the team as the organization went through wholesale changes following the season. Washington’s new ownership group changed the coaching staff and hired Dan Quinn as the team’s head coach with former Arizona Cardinals head coach Kliff Kingsbury serving as the offensive coordinator for No. 2 overall draft pick Jayden Daniels.

Before coaching for the Chiefs, Bieniemy was the offensive coordinator at his alma mater, Colorado, for two seasons and had served as an assistant coach with the Minnesota Vikings. It’s unclear just where Bieniemy’s next coaching stop will be and it’d have been hard to fathom four years ago that Bieniemy would be leaving his third job in three seasons at the end of 2024 instead of being the head coach of an NFL team.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

But by that measure Nagy is also a failure. And Kafka. And I don't think that's the case. You are grading EB by his performance outside of KC as a playcaller and as a people manager. And those may not necessarily be his strengths. Isn't it possible that he is in a long line of coaches who are exceptional assistants without being great managers? Think we can all agree that Washington and UCLA were bad fits for lots of different reasons. Even most people here seem to think oc or the special role carved out for him to audition for a hc job were too much for him. I don't think this is proof at all that eb couldnt cut it being relegated to a rbs coach. It just means he isn't hc or oc material, especially for an offense with a bad roster

Which is what makes the chiefs OC position different because as we all know, Reid micromanages a lot of that responsibility. So you can hire some of those weaknesses. Nagy might be a good example of that.

Yes injuries, talent and continuity play a big part. But it's apparent to everyone that we also make way too many undisciplined mistakes too. That doesn't mean EB solves all of that. Correlation doesn't always equal causation but it does seem just a little curious that a lot of these silly mistakes become a frequent problem after you lose the guy whose reputation was to be a tyrant about executed on small details

I've said multiple times that OC on this team gets a lot more focus from fans than they should. That's what this is. Hero worship and nostalgia. Wanting EB back is a yearning for something that's not coming back, even if he does. This is a different team now.

Also, I think when you look around the league at Andy's former assistants there a lot of good and bad. I think it says more about how many of them were actually THAT important I. The teams success, aka they weren't.

And finally you once again said EB is a disciplinarian. Based on what? The overwhelming amount of evidence going all the way back to CU is that he's a hard guy to get along with and doesn't always play by the rules.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because wanting him to come back and do it again flies in the face of reality. He's not a magic wand. His time outside of KC is the ONLY evidence we have of what he might do without Mahomes. And that evidence suggest he's not a good coach.

Your like a 14-year old with a crush.

Again if he is such a bad coach why did Andy let him work with the team ahead of the AFC game and why did Mahomes say "we had chills in that room"??

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Where's your proof that he can't recreate it? He's been great with Mahomes and would be coming back to who? Oh yes MAHOMES so why wouldn't something that worked for FIVE YEARS and brought us two Championships work now?

His career outside of KC 100% proves he can't repeat it because it proves it WASN'T him.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Again if he is such a bad coach why did Andy let him work with the team ahead of the AFC game and why did Mahomes say "we had chills in that room"??

[wazu]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Except you have no evidence he can. He didn't have this set of WRs or these LTs or all of these injuries to deal with. He had Mahomes and Kelce and quite a few good players while he was here.

We can play this game all day but you simply have no proof that EB could recreate what he did here previously. The only actual evidence we have without factoring in Andy and Mahomes is his career outside of KC and he's been bad.

Having Andy as your HC, and Mahomes as your QB is a cheat code. EB was able to unlock it. I'll be happy if somebody other than EB can unlock it as well, but so far Nagy seems to be fumbling with the controls. The 2018-2022 Chiefs were one of the greatest offenses in NFL history. 2023-2024 there is a sharp dropoff with largely the same personnel. What's changed? The offensive coordinator.

Maybe it is all just a huge coincidence, but right now my general belief is that EB played a role as part of that whole magnificent ensemble from 2018-2022.

I know it's probably not realistic that he return. It seems like a decision was made to move on, and now even if he came back it might not be the same. But one thing that has worried me about Andy is a tendency towards cronyism which I believe played a part in the end of his tenure in Philly. Now I'm worried that Nagy might not be providing value, but is instead in his spot because he is "liked" by everybody.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Where's your proof that he can't recreate it? He's been great with Mahomes and would be coming back to who? Oh yes MAHOMES so why wouldn't something that worked for FIVE YEARS and brought us two Championships work now?

You can't prove a negative. Do we need to do logic 101 for you?

[ThrobProng]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

EB is the greatest OC this team has ever had. FACT. Why does he have to prove himself elsewhere?

**** that, Al Saunders did more with less.

EB can't even be fully trusted to call plays.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

But by that measure Nagy is also a failure. And Kafka. And I don't think that's the case. You are grading EB by his performance outside of KC as a playcaller and as a people manager. And those may not necessarily be his strengths. Isn't it possible that he is in a long line of coaches who are exceptional assistants without being great managers? Think we can all agree that Washington and UCLA were bad fits for lots of different reasons. Even most people here seem to think oc or the special role carved out for him to audition for a hc job were too much for him. I don't think this is proof at all that eb couldnt cut it being relegated to a rbs coach. It just means he isn't hc or oc material, especially for an offense with a bad roster

Which is what makes the chiefs OC position different because as we all know, Reid micromanages a lot of that responsibility. So you can hide some of those weaknesses. Nagy might be a good example of that.

Yes injuries, talent and continuity play a big part. But it's apparent to everyone that we also make way too many undisciplined mistakes too. That doesn't mean EB solves all of that. Correlation doesn't always equal causation but it does seem just a little curious that a lot of these silly mistakes become a frequent problem after you lose the guy whose reputation was to be a tyrant about executed on small details. we can't judge his performance by roles that don't fit him. The best way to find out is to see how he performs relegated to a role better suited for him. And all the info before he got promoted too high was that he was an exceptional assistant. Good enough to catch reids eye that this dude deserved to be his top offensive assistant

The guy clearly dislikes EB and his excuses are getting more and more feeble by the post sadly. It's crazy how a guy as decorated as EB gets reduced to being merely a "coincidence". Smh it's utterly pathetic.

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Originally Posted by wazu

Having Andy as your HC, and Mahomes as your QB is a cheat code. EB was able to unlock it. I'll be happy if somebody other than EB can unlock it as well, but so far Nagy seems to be fumbling with the controls. The 2018-2022 Chiefs were one of the greatest offenses in NFL history. 2023-2024 there is a sharp dropoff with largely the same personnel. What's changed? The offensive coordinator.

Maybe it is all just a huge coincidence, but right now my general belief is that EB played a role as part of that whole magnificent ensemble from 2018-2022.

I know it's probably not realistic that he return. It seems like a decision was made to move on, and now even if he came back it might not be the same. But one thing that has worried me about Andy is a tendency towards cronyism which I believe played a part in the end of his tenure in Philly. Now I'm worried that Nagy might not be providing value, but is instead in his spot because he is "liked" by everybody.

Largely the same personnel? I was going to respond point by point but that's disingenuous to the max. Sorry.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You can't prove a negative. Do we need to do logic 101 for you?

Why did Andy bring him in for the AFC game if EB can't influence the team again?

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

The guy clearly dislikes EB and his excuses are getting more and more feeble by the post sadly. It's crazy how a guy as decorated as EB gets reduced to being merely a "coincidence". Smh it's utterly pathetic.

This will be at least the 5th time I said this since it started.

If they want to bring EB back, I'm cool with it.

Of course I'm realistic about what his impact might be. I'm not in love with him.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Largely the same personnel? I was going to respond point by point but that's disingenuous to the max. Sorry.

Okay, largely the same personnel but with Donovan Smith/scrubs instead of Orlando Brown Jr.

[New World Order]

Fire Nagy!!!

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Ducking the question again?

[htismaqe]

It's sad to think that I've upvoted a few dozen posts of Chieffy the last week or so. He was doing so good. Then he gets back into this stupid mancrush.

I've presented the evidence over and over. There's no more discussion to be had.

He will either come back or we won't. Either way, this team continues on as long as Andy and Pat are here.