Call Your Shot: Who’s the Chiefs first selection in the 2020 Draft

[staylor26]

I’m going with Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

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Yeah, so Schwartz didn't jump on the offer, the agent was contacted by the Chiefs, who offered less but they weren't exactly "aggressive" about it. They saw an opening and jumped, albeit for less than Cleveland was offering.

In retrospect, it worked out for Schwartz, although he could still probably get more money on the open market, even today.

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Maybe

I'm not making the case that going Guard is the best move, which isn't the case. I'm just preparing myself for it happening because I just won't be surprised if they take a lineman of some sort is all.

To my eyes, there was a clear upgrade when Rankin started at the LG position. He had 5 starts, 0 penalties but unfortunately, never started next to Eric Fisher.

The Guard and Center positions, outside of the guys on last year's 53, seem to me more like a Practice Squad deal, especially given that it's been expanded to 14 from 10 and with the new CBA, veterans qualify for the PS as well.

So, Andy could have a few more raw candidates in which to tinker with during the season.

[staylor26]

I think they draft an OT next year. We have our starters and swing tackle set for this year.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Zack Baun, Wisconsin (rSR, 6'2", 238 pounds)

Bah! NO!!!!!!!!

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I think they draft an OT next year. We have our starters and swing tackle set for this year.

Probably the most likely scenario, yes.

But this is a pretty good OT class and so if someone that would normally go in the 35-40 range fell to the Chiefs at 63, I could see them grabbing him. It's less than ideal to do that given the fact that you only get 4 years of him and 2 of them are almost certainly blocked, but for the right talent, it's worthwhile.

I don't think it would be Veach's ideal outcome, but it's one I think he'd consider.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Mahomes didn't have Watkins, a healthy Hill, or most of his starting OL.

There were a lot of reasons the Colts defense beat up the Chiefs last year and it had as much to do with a bad set of circumstance for the passing game as it did the absence of a quality starting RB.

Ultimately we didn't have much at RB all year and for the most part, it was an afterthought. There were a TON of problems in that Colts game - I'd put the absence of Williams at maybe 5th on the list of causes.

Yeah, but I'm not even saying so much Williams, but the lack of a running back threat, period.

Darrel Williams and Darwin Award Thompson don't put the fear in, well, anyone and once McCoy fumbled in Colts territory, Andy basically pulled him.

I'm taking this game by game and not claiming the Chiefs would have been 16-0, but the lack of a threatening or even solid running game hurt them in the Titans, Packers, Colts and Texans regular seasons games. And even though Mahomes is an amazing, All-World QB, the threat of a great running game makes him even deadlier.

I know that you're not arguing against it but I just don't understand how people can claim that the Chiefs don't "need" a true feature back because "we've got Mahomes".

Yeah, remember Dan Marino? The guy had like one season with a 1,000 yard running back in Miami and never won anything.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Probably the most likely scenario, yes.

But this is a pretty good OT class and so if someone that would normally go in the 35-40 range fell to the Chiefs at 63, I could see them grabbing him. It's less than ideal to do that given the fact that you only get 4 years of him and 2 of them are almost certainly blocked, but for the right talent, it's worthwhile.

I don't think it would be Veach's ideal outcome, but it's one I think he'd consider.

Yea it’s still a possibility for sure, just my guess.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, so Schwartz didn't jump on the offer, the agent was contacted by the Chiefs, who offered less but they weren't exactly "aggressive" about it. They saw an opening and jumped, albeit for less than Cleveland was offering.

In retrospect, it worked out for Schwartz, although he could still probably get more money on the open market, even today.



To my eyes, there was a clear upgrade when Rankin started at the LG position. He had 5 starts, 0 penalties but unfortunately, never started next to Eric Fisher.

The Guard and Center positions, outside of the guys on last year's 53, seem to me more like a Practice Squad deal, especially given that it's been expanded to 14 from 10 and with the new CBA, veterans qualify for the PS as well.

So, Andy could have a few more raw candidates in which to tinker with during the season.

They tried to court some higher offers, didn't get the numbers they were hoping to get and tried to take the Browns offer which was rescinded and he became a FA.

I liked what I saw out of Rankin also, but he also ****ed his knee up pretty good in that Titans loss and who knows how he'll be afterwards until they see him take some snaps which won't be till TC if there's even a season at all.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Probably the most likely scenario, yes.

But this is a pretty good OT class and so if someone that would normally go in the 35-40 range fell to the Chiefs at 63, I could see them grabbing him. It's less than ideal to do that given the fact that you only get 4 years of him and 2 of them are almost certainly blocked, but for the right talent, it's worthwhile.

I don't think it would be Veach's ideal outcome, but it's one I think he'd consider.

I like Ben Bartch as a developmental OT.

[DJ's left nut]

Lord almight, look at this piece of shit:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...-all-32-teams/

1 32 CB A.J. Terrell, Clemson
2 63 C Matt Hennessy, Temple from SF
3 96 Traded to New York Giants
3 99 CB Reggie Robinson, Tulsa from NYG*
4 138 G Logan Stenberg, Kentucky
5 177 Traded to Green Bay
6 192 DE Derrek Tuszka, North Dakota State from LV/GB*
7 238 DT Khalil Davis, Nebraska from NO/NYG*
7 242 RB Michael Warren II, Cincinnati from BAL/GB*

This monstrosity is why I will never 'defer to the experts' when it comes to the Chiefs draft.

2 CBs a C and a G with their first 4 picks, ALL of whom are reach picks. Why? Because idiot national talking heads do the same thing every time. They build their list of needs for each team and then at each pick, they just snap a guy up from the top of that position group.

There's no way the Chiefs just punt a draft like that and go 'full need'.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

I like Ben Bartch as a developmental OT.

He falls to the 4th/5th in most mocks I see. Could see Reid nabbing him and playing him inside.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Probably the most likely scenario, yes.

But this is a pretty good OT class and so if someone that would normally go in the 35-40 range fell to the Chiefs at 63, I could see them grabbing him. It's less than ideal to do that given the fact that you only get 4 years of him and 2 of them are almost certainly blocked, but for the right talent, it's worthwhile.

I don't think it would be Veach's ideal outcome, but it's one I think he'd consider.

I’ll one up you and suggest that if Josh Jones slips to #32, then he will indeed be the pick. He is the best movement tackle of the big 5 (Wills, Wirfs, Becton, Thomas, Jones), and fits the Reid/Heck scheme to a tee. KC has to make a $ decision on Fisher soon and Schwartz is 32. Jones is arguably a top 15-25 talent.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Lord almight, look at this piece of shit

Yeah, I saw that earlier and thought the same exact thing, then I clicked on his Twitter account and saw that he had 4,000 Followers.



Sports "Journalism" has become a dead end, so much so, that even "brand name" internet sites are just hiring guys on the cheap, regardless of their qualifications.

During "Draft Season", it's just all about putting something on the site to get hits, regardless of the content.

[farmerchief]

Jaylon Johnson CB Utah, middle of second round. Chiefs trade down with either Miami or Jacksonville, pick up an additional 4th rd pick.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Lord almight, look at this piece of shit:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...-all-32-teams/



This monstrosity is why I will never 'defer to the experts' when it comes to the Chiefs draft.

2 CBs a C and a G with their first 4 picks, ALL of whom are reach picks. Why? Because idiot national talking heads do the same thing every time. They build their list of needs for each team and then at each pick, they just snap a guy up from the top of that position group.

There's no way the Chiefs just punt a draft like that and go 'full need'.

Gross.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Are any of the running backs good blockers because that is something Reid wants in a RB. Williams is a damn good excellent blocker