Chiefs Geno Smith outplaying Mark Sanchez - Page 12

Hammock Parties · 08-01-2013, 05:14 PM

Suck it, haters. Suck the choco-penii of destiny, feel it's power. It could have been ours.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...-training-camp

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CORTLAND, N.Y. -- Rookie Geno Smith has outplayed Mark Sanchez through the first week of training camp, pulling even or perhaps ahead in the New York Jets' quarterback competition.

"He can do more" than Sanchez, one veteran said Wednesday, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

It was Sanchez's turn to lead the starting unit and he struggled, throwing an interception for the second straight practice. Smith has yet to throw an interception in team drills over the first five practices.

It's premature to anoint a starter -- after all, they haven't begun live tackling -- but the early development is noteworthy because people close to the team expected Sanchez, based on his experience, to look sharper than Smith at the outset. That hasn't been the case.

"Everybody gets enamored with the guy who throws a 96 mph fastball," coach Rex Ryan said of Smith. To be politically correct, Ryan quickly added, "But Mark certainly has a good enough arm to play in this league."

It didn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Sanchez declined to say whether he believes he's leading the competition.

"I don't know, ask the coaches," he said. "I feel good, though. I feel confident. I feel like I'm playing really well."

Smith has sparkled with his accuracy, but he tends to hold the ball too long when facing pressure, according to Ryan. That, he said, "concerns me a little bit." The organization knows what it has in Sanchez, who was benched late last season.

Privately, the hope is that Smith can master the offense and seize the starting job. Even if he doesn't win it, Smith will be involved in the offense. Even though Tim Tebow is gone, Ryan said he remains committed to running the ball from the quarterback position.

He's intrigued by Smith's running ability, which would give the Jets a run-pass option at the quarterback position. Ryan acknowledged the plan, admitting last year's strategy under former coordinator Tony Sparano was ill-conceived. They never trusted Tebow to throw the ball. Whenever they used him, it usually was a read-option running play between the tackles.

"I think if that's the only thing you do with that position, why don't you just leave a running back in, a guy that's trained to do it?" Ryan said, second-guessing last season's approach. "If you're going to have a quarterback do it, like a (Colin) Kaepernick or somebody like that, it becomes more of a weapon because you know it's not just Tebow coming and he's going to run the ball. That's kind of where we were last year."

Ryan laughed when asked if he plans to use the Wildcat (or read-option) more than last year. Tebow finished with 32 rushes, averaging only 3.2 yards per carry.

"We probably will because, you guys say it, we never used it," he said. "So I would say, yeah, I think that will be part of what we do."

In the Wildcat, the ball is snapped to a nonquarterback. In those situations, the Jets can utilize wide receiver Jeremy Kerley or a running back, probably Bilal Powell. When Smith is on the field, either as the starter or a change-of-pace quarterback, they can employ the read-option.

The presence of new quarterbacks coach David Lee, one of the Wildcat innovators, is another reason the team is planning to use it. Sanchez said he could run the read-option, but there's little chance of that happening. His running ability will forever be linked to the "Butt Fumble," when he ran into a lineman's rear end last season.

Smith's athleticism could be a factor in the quarterback decision. Sanchez acknowledged that Smith is "very talented when it comes to that stuff. But I can't worry about it." Sanchez joked about the quarterback competition, mentioning that he sees more front-office types on the field for practice, scribbling notes during routine drills.

He said it reminds him of his rookie year in 2009, when he won the job against Kellen Clemens.

"For you (reporters), it's your job, but it's funny to see everybody else charting stuff," he said. "Everything is under scrutiny. There's a ton of pressure. That's the way you like it; that's the way you play this position."

9er guy · 08-03-2013, 12:52 AM

I don't think Geno would have been the answer either. I know you guys don't wanna hear that.

ChiefsCountry · 08-03-2013, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

After the events of the 2012 season, in addition to the past six seasons of futility (if not 20+ years), why do you believes that Clark Hunt could trot out a team with a rookie QB with serious question marks or a piece of crap like Kolb?

The NFL doesn't exist in a vacuum. Unfortunately, there are responsibilities that go far beyond reaching for a QB.

How many people would show up in November if this team is once again, an incompetent, uncompetitive piece of crap?

Would there have been much difference if the Chiefs signed Phil Loadholt/Kevin Kolb combo over the Eric Fisher/Alex Smith combo? You are still looking at 6 to 8 win team anyways.

Setsuna · 08-03-2013, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

I don't think Geno would have been the answer either. I know you guys don't wanna hear that.

An attempt was all we were asking for. The craven FO couldn't even give us that.

beach tribe · 08-03-2013, 12:56 AM

Smith may not be elite, but Kolb is a ****ing joke.

beach tribe · 08-03-2013, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby

An attempt was all people were asking for.

Bray.
Is that not an attempt?
If we would have used a 3rd on him, I guess it would have answered all our prayers.

Setsuna · 08-03-2013, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Bray.
Is that not an attempt?
If we would have used a 3rd on him, I guess it would have answered all our prayers.

No.

Sorter · 08-03-2013, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

Man. That might be a stretch. I've never seen Kolb do anything of note at any at time ever. Smitty at least strung together some nice wins.

He did start last year with a 4-0 record with a win at NE before getting injured, fwiw.

Simply Red · 08-03-2013, 01:09 AM

Bray is a turd.

9er guy · 08-03-2013, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Bray.
Is that not an attempt?
If we would have used a 3rd on him, I guess it would have answered all our prayers.

Bray's solid. Didn't jump off the screen at Tennesee, but he's solid.

keg in kc · 08-03-2013, 01:11 AM

An undrafted free agent isn't an attempt at anything.

It's not really about Geno Smith. This goes back decades now. The team isn't ever drafting a QB high. Business as usual, as dictated by the Hunt family. Apply whatever game managing veteran band-aid you can find, and hope you can win enough games year-in-and-year-out to keep the fans in the stands. Don't risk it on a rookie.

9er guy · 08-03-2013, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

He did start last year with a 4-0 record with a win at NE before getting injured, fwiw.

Before getting what?

Sorter · 08-03-2013, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

Before getting what?

Injured. ..

**Easy 6** · 08-03-2013, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

I don't think Geno would have been the answer either. I know you guys don't wanna hear that.

Praise be to you my n00bian brother.

9er guy · 08-03-2013, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Praise be to you my n00bian brother.

You know who I like? The Mariota kid from Oregon.

I think he could be a hell of a pro.

**Easy 6** · 08-03-2013, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

An undrafted free agent isn't an attempt at anything.

It's not really about Geno Smith. This goes back decades now. The team isn't ever drafting a QB high. Business as usual, as dictated by the Hunt family. Apply whatever game managing veteran band-aid you can find, and hope you can win enough games year-in-and-year-out to keep the fans in the stands. Don't risk it on a rookie.

We've all witnessed this teams awful, sordid record with quarterbacks for way too long now... but do you really think, after all thats happened... that if a REAL, EXCITING young stud like Griffin or Luck had been available to Clark in recent past drafts that we wouldnt have gone after them, short of selling the teams soul for the next ten years?

Some of you act like Clark etc GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to keep us down, i dont buy that stuff for one freaking second... the more the Chiefs win, the better off he is... please stop with this "its only about saving money" BS.

He wipes his ass with money, i bet he wants a winner to make Daddy proud.

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