****Official Mizzou Football 2023-2024 Thread****

[duncan_idaho]

Year 4 of the Drinkwitz era, let's discuss.

Schedule

• Aug. 31 - South Dakoka - W
• Sept 9 - Middle Tennessee - W
• Sept 16 - kansas State - W
• Sept 23 - Memphis
• Sept 30 - @Vanderbilt
• Oct 7 - LSU
• Oct 14 - @Kentucky
• Oct 21 - South Carolina
• Nov 4 - @Georgia
• Nov 11 - Tennessee
• Nov 18 - Florida
• Nov 24 - @Arkansas

Recruiting Class
Rivals

[jjchieffan]

I read a whining article about Mizzou getting Nwaneri. They were mad because Missouri allows in state recruits signing with in state schools to sign NIL deals in high school, which, according to them, was the only reason that he went to Mizzou. Maybe it's true. Don't care. It's nice to see the Tigers getting top in state talent to stay home.

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Cook was named a captain tonight for those who want to off themselves before the season starts.

If Cook is the starter fire up the coaching hot board.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Players vote on captains, so while I figure Cook is the starter I wouldn't use him being voted Captain as super strong evidence that he's starting.

Where did you hear that about Horn? I've heard nothing of the sort.

PowerMizzou’s football beat reporter, Jarod Hamilton, reported it yesterday in practice notes. Running even on reps with the 1s. Specifically talked about his mastery of the j offense showing great progress from last year.

One thing I forgot about Horn is that he’s a type 1 diabetic. That’s a big adjustment for college and, I suspect, one of the reasons his parents wanted him to have a year to acclimate.

[ChiefsCountry]

I think Cook will start the season but it will be Horns by the end of the season.

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

If Cook is the starter fire up the coaching hot board.

Going to be a tough one to swallow. If only we could watch practices and witness first hand that he is the best QB...it's hard to fathom, I just can't picture him making better, quicker decisions and throwing more accurate passes with the necessary pace than the other guys. Show me...

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I think your person is misinformed, or a Sooner fan with sour grapes.

Sure hope so...he is a Mizzou grad though

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Woogieman

Going to be a tough one to swallow. If only we could watch practices and witness first hand that he is the best QB...it's hard to fathom, I just can't picture him making better, quicker decisions and throwing more accurate passes with the necessary pace than the other guys. Show me...

I can.

At a certain talent level, it's mostly situation dependent. As we've discussed above, look at those 'Bama quarterbacks or Stetson Bennett. Those guys just got to play on Rookie sliders.

Last season Cook was playing on All Madden settings.

Now we're still Mizzou - I'm not expecting Cook to get the Rookie treatment. But All-Pro is extremely doable and Pro might be. Get the level of the team around him up to the point that he's dealing with easier sliders and he's going to look WAY better and at that point experience will play up. It'll play up perhaps more than raw talent will.

So if Mizzou has a quality team, I think there's a VERY good chance that Cook's the best quarterback option for the first week or even few weeks. And I think at the same time, Horn or Garcia may be able to build up experience base well enough for the talent to then leapfrog him, especially as the schedule gets harder into conference play.

I just can't see any utility in planting flags early here. Cook, if he continues to struggle, will lose the job. Because if the team is a good team, they won't leave him in there to hold him back. And if the team is a mediocre/bad team (and last year's was) then you may just need to toss the most raw talent you have under center to try to make chicken salad from chicken shit.

I wouldn't get spun up either way right now. But talk to me in week 4/5 and we'll start to have some answers.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Woogieman

Sure hope so...he is a Mizzou grad though

The person I checked in with would know if his grades were an issue. They are not.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I can.

At a certain talent level, it's mostly situation dependent. As we've discussed above, look at those 'Bama quarterbacks or Stetson Bennett. Those guys just got to play on Rookie sliders.

Last season Cook was playing on All Madden settings.

Now we're still Mizzou - I'm not expecting Cook to get the Rookie treatment. But All-Pro is extremely doable and Pro might be. Get the level of the team around him up to the point that he's dealing with easier sliders and he's going to look WAY better and at that point experience will play up. It'll play up perhaps more than raw talent will.

So if Mizzou has a quality team, I think there's a VERY good chance that Cook's the best quarterback option for the first week or even few weeks. And I think at the same time, Horn or Garcia may be able to build up experience base well enough for the talent to then leapfrog him, especially as the schedule gets harder into conference play.

I just can't see any utility in planting flags early here. Cook, if he continues to struggle, will lose the job. Because if the team is a good team, they won't leave him in there to hold him back. And if the team is a mediocre/bad team (and last year's was) then you may just need to toss the most raw talent you have under center to try to make chicken salad from chicken shit.

I wouldn't get spun up either way right now. But talk to me in week 4/5 and we'll start to have some answers.

Precisely my point.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I had season tickets and couldn't tell you a meaningful detail about a single game.

Last season I had them. I got ripped at the tailgate as often as not because the games were just hellish.

Funny thing is I actually legit forgot he even was starting until you mentioned it in that post. I even remembered Method Man and Berkstresser.

Kind of impressive.

[Titty Meat]

Since Missouri HS kids can get NIL can he cash out then committing to OU?

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Woogieman

Going to be a tough one to swallow. If only we could watch practices and witness first hand that he is the best QB...it's hard to fathom, I just can't picture him making better, quicker decisions and throwing more accurate passes with the necessary pace than the other guys. Show me...

Uhh, if Cook is legitimately the best QB in the program right now that's a pretty big blunder by Drinkwitz. Unless you're expecting a massive leap forward from him it's probably going to be marginal improvement at best, and even marginally improved Cook isn't nearly good enough for this stage of college ball.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Since Missouri HS kids can get NIL can he cash out then committing to OU?

Yeah, I've kind of been wondering about that myself. Whats to stop these kids (or their parents) from cashing in early then flipping to their preferred school after chilling at Mizzou for a season to double dip.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Since Missouri HS kids can get NIL can he cash out then committing to OU?

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch

Yeah, I've kind of been wondering about that myself. Whats to stop these kids (or their parents) from cashing in early then flipping to their preferred school after chilling at Mizzou for a season to double dip.

Well they have to play at least one season, because they are only eligible to get that money if they sign their NLI. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only way to get out of that NLI is if the coach leaves.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch

Uhh, if Cook is legitimately the best QB in the program right now that's a pretty big blunder by Drinkwitz. Unless you're expecting a massive leap forward from him it's probably going to be marginal improvement at best, and even marginally improved Cook isn't nearly good enough for this stage of college ball.

I just can't believe how bad he was last year. He had 5 games where he didn't throw a TD and 5 games with only 1 TD. 9 of his 14 TDs came in 3 games. He had a 4 game stretch where he ran the ball 39 times and gained 3 total yards.

Nothing about his play last season was even slightly encouraging. I didn't watch every single minute of every single game, but I didn't see any flashes of greatness from him. I don't get it.