Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-28-2024, 08:39 AM  
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $1078962
VARSITY
***Official 2024 STL Cardinals Thread ***

I'll update the rosters and opening day lineup when its officially released.

2024 Opening Day roster.
Spoiler!

For the new Cardinal fans that joined the Planet since last year, here are some of the historical threads going back to 2006.

Last edited by BigRedChief; 03-28-2024 at 10:04 AM..
Posts: 80,224
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 11:07 AM   #166
jd1020 jd1020 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Casino cash: $7332645
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Eh - the appear to have finally gotten it through their idiot skulls that extending Goldschmidt is a horrifying idea.

If they're smart, he's playing 1b in Memphis everyday to prepare him for 2025. And if they do that and let him focus on hitting, he'll be a strong player for them.

But they're very stupid. So they'll probably have him playing 3b or something. Maybe CF.
Goldschmidt is a slow starter. When he starts carrying the team in June/July the fears of extending him will subside. Mozeliak will extend him like he did every other 38 year old career Cardinal. Then he'll get a jump on trading Walker and send him to the Mets or some shit for Drew Gilbert.

Last edited by jd1020; 04-24-2024 at 11:15 AM..
Posts: 24,429
jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 11:09 AM   #167
raybec 4 raybec 4 is offline
MVP
 
raybec 4's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Jabip
Casino cash: $4593807
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 View Post
Goldschmidt is a slow starter. When he starts carrying the team in June/July the fears of extending him with subside. Mozeliak will extend him like he did every other 38 year old career Cardinal. Then he'll get a jump on trading Walker and send him to the Mets or some shit for Drew Gilbert.
Good point. By the time July rolls around and they're already 12 games back in the WC he'll write Goldy a check for his senior years.
Posts: 11,058
raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 11:22 AM   #168
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $1078962
VARSITY
I hope the BFIB located in St. Louis are paying attention.

__________________
Mind you own damn business
Posts: 80,224
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 11:41 AM   #169
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $1029099
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
I hope the BFIB located in St. Louis are paying attention.

What should worry you is that this is a statement of how little respect there is for the Cardinals leadership throughout MLB.

So it means that when you're dealing with them, you treat them like your idiot nephew and offer him 3 beads for his Snickers bar because you know there's a chance he might say yes. And because he IS your idiot nephew, he probably will. After he gets that 4th bead out of you and you 'reluctantly' pull the trigger.

But ultimately I can't imagine this is anything DeWitt doesn't already know. He has to see that these guys ****ing suck at building a baseball team.

He simply doesn't give a shit.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,509
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 11:46 AM   #170
Marcellus Marcellus is offline
Diablo Negro
 
Marcellus's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Casino cash: $1212662
Getting beat down by Jordan Montgomery today is going to make this even more painful.
Posts: 72,656
Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 11:46 AM   #171
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $1029099
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus View Post
Getting beat down by Jordan Montgomery today is going to make this even more painful.
I do find it interesting that the Cardinals chose a day that they were facing a lefty without premier velocity to finally pull the plug on Walker.

It suggests that they realize there truly is no matchup that favors him. He really can't hit anything right now.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,509
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 12:00 PM   #172
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $1078962
VARSITY
Maybe the STL fans are finally fed up. But, it was a school night game.


__________________
Mind you own damn business
Posts: 80,224
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 12:20 PM   #173
raybec 4 raybec 4 is offline
MVP
 
raybec 4's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Jabip
Casino cash: $4593807
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
Maybe the STL fans are finally fed up. But, it was a school night game.


https://www.baseball-reference.com/b...02404230.shtml
Tuesday, April 23, 2024
Start Time: 6:45 p.m. Local
Attendance: 32,875
Venue: Busch Stadium III
Game Duration: 2:37
Night Game, on grass


Announced attendance -32,875 There's no way that's even close.
Posts: 11,058
raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.raybec 4 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 12:24 PM   #174
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $1029099
Quote:
Originally Posted by raybec 4 View Post
https://www.baseball-reference.com/b...02404230.shtml
Tuesday, April 23, 2024
Start Time: 6:45 p.m. Local
Attendance: 32,875
Venue: Busch Stadium III
Game Duration: 2:37
Night Game, on grass


Announced attendance -32,875 There's no way that's even close.
I'd be surprised if that's 14,000.

The good news, to whatever extent they still care, is that the Cardinals know exactly how many came through the turnstiles.

The message is being delivered. It's just a question as to whether or not DeWitt is willing to listen to it at all.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,509
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 12:49 PM   #175
Marcellus Marcellus is offline
Diablo Negro
 
Marcellus's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Casino cash: $1212662
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
I'd be surprised if that's 14,000.

The good news, to whatever extent they still care, is that the Cardinals know exactly how many came through the turnstiles.

The message is being delivered. It's just a question as to whether or not DeWitt is willing to listen to it at all.
I don't get it. Dewitt is going to be 83 years old this year and he is worth ~$4B. He ain't taking it with him.

WTF would he not be all in on this team? He will be lucky to be alive another 5 years.
Posts: 72,656
Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 12:53 PM   #176
Ocotillo Ocotillo is offline
Veteran
 
Ocotillo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Red state
Casino cash: $0
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
Should have made him stay down last year and not promote him until he changes his swing to get some lift. It’s in his own damn interest's.
Fangraphs has his barrel rate at 11.9%, launch angle at 12.8 and fly ball at 45.2%.

He still hits too many ground balls, but what's sinking his performance is his dismal 4.8% line drive rate that will eventually normalize.

He's only 21 and had a wRC+ of 116 in a meh rookie year. Nobody with any smarts in the industry is writing him off.
Posts: 2,769
Ocotillo Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Ocotillo Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Ocotillo Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Ocotillo Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Ocotillo Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Ocotillo Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Ocotillo Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Ocotillo Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Ocotillo Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Ocotillo Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Ocotillo Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 01:25 PM   #177
Pasta Little Brioni Pasta Little Brioni is online now
Consuming CP souls
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: U.S.A.
Casino cash: $2008880
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
I'd be surprised if that's 14,000.

The good news, to whatever extent they still care, is that the Cardinals know exactly how many came through the turnstiles.

The message is being delivered. It's just a question as to whether or not DeWitt is willing to listen to it at all.
What was the give away? I know of people that went over the weekend, grabbed a few, then left.
__________________
****Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner****
Posts: 71,916
Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 01:27 PM   #178
Pasta Little Brioni Pasta Little Brioni is online now
Consuming CP souls
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: U.S.A.
Casino cash: $2008880
But also...why is anyone braving that cesspool downtown with a family to see this team? $60 parking to avoid some of it, but then you're paying 60 to park to see this trash team.
__________________
****Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner****
Posts: 71,916
Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 01:30 PM   #179
jd1020 jd1020 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Casino cash: $7332645
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ocotillo View Post
Fangraphs has his barrel rate at 11.9%, launch angle at 12.8 and fly ball at 45.2%.

He still hits too many ground balls, but what's sinking his performance is his dismal 4.8% line drive rate that will eventually normalize.

He's only 21 and had a wRC+ of 116 in a meh rookie year. Nobody with any smarts in the industry is writing him off.
What's sinking him is he can't hit a single pitch right now. He's got a 42% K rate against 4 seam fastballs.

No one is writing him off, but until he actually listens to some approach advice, he won't amount to shit as a 1B/DH that doesnt hit for power.
Posts: 24,429
jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2024, 01:31 PM   #180
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $1029099
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ocotillo View Post
Fangraphs has his barrel rate at 11.9%, launch angle at 12.8 and fly ball at 45.2%.

He still hits too many ground balls, but what's sinking his performance is his dismal 4.8% line drive rate that will eventually normalize.

He's only 21 and had a wRC+ of 116 in a meh rookie year. Nobody with any smarts in the industry is writing him off.
The poor line drive rate isn't an accident.

He pulls off everything. So his timing has to be perfect to drive a ball and even then he's not getting his lower half into it so it'll be a struck liner into RC field.

He leaves almost his entire pull potential on the table because his mechanics are a damn trainwreck. His top and bottom half couldn't be any more out of whack if he tried.

No, that's not something you just wait on regression to fix.

He had to be sent down. And they HAVE to take a more direct approach with him. If that means burying his ass in AA until he gives you a 100 PA rolling average with a groundball rate below 35% then so be it. You absolutely cannot bring him back up until he demonstrates fundamental changes in his approach.

This isn't tenable long-term. You can't take a guy with truly top 5% raw power, quick hands and a solid batting eye and say "Well...Casey Kotchman wasn't a bad player...."

They've already missed a window to trade him and let someone else do the spadework. The possibility of dealing him for someone like Kirby was last spring when he gave you the bird the first time you asked him to do it. Now you have no choice but to pull out the paddle, try some tough love and go full on 'Checkers or Wreckers' with him. You develop him into a star or you end up non-tendering him in 4 seasons.

There's no more room for middle ground.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,509
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:00 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.