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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:04 AM   #17926
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What's a "neutral situation"?

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It's when the offense isn't ahead or behind by a bunch.

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The concept of situation-neutral pace was introduced in Pro Football Prospectus 2005. The intent is to describe pace as dictated by each team's game plan or style of play, not pace that is situation-induced. The current definition discards plays when the score differential is greater than 10 points in the first half, plays when the score differential is greater than 8 points in the 3rd quarter, plays in the 4th quarter or overtime, and plays in the last five minutes of the first half.
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:04 AM   #17927
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I didn't know either.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/pacestats

These stats are computed from NFL Drive Charts and Scoring Summaries. The concept of situation-neutral pace was introduced in Pro Football Prospectus 2005. The intent is to describe pace as dictated by each team's game plan or style of play, not pace that is situation-induced. The current definition discards plays when the score differential is greater than 10 points in the first half, plays when the score differential is greater than 8 points in the 3rd quarter, plays in the 4th quarter or overtime, and plays in the last five minutes of the first half.
The Time Stats table displays Time of Possession and Game Time breakdowns for each team.
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Old 10-18-2018, 12:03 PM   #17928
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Old 10-18-2018, 12:12 PM   #17929
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"But...but...you have to have all high pick fatties and a line just like Green had to be effective as a QB"!

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They have two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks and a 6th round pick as starters.
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Old 10-18-2018, 12:23 PM   #17930
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They have two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks and a 6th round pick as starters.
And not exactly an insignificant amount of cap space invested in the OL to boot.

I know the sack numbers are nice but I still put most of that on Mahomes. I've not been generally impressed by the amount of time he's had to throw, especially considering the fact that teams really can't gamble too often getting after him when there are that many guys in the pattern that can hurt them.

The Pats were getting pressure with 3 on fair occasions last week. That's not great, Bob.
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Old 10-18-2018, 12:24 PM   #17931
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Thanks for the explanation of "neutral situation" guys ... appreciate it.

As an expression of my gratitude, here's a nice little breakdown of THT by Matt Waldman.

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2018/09/2...rm-creativity/

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And not exactly an insignificant amount of cap space invested in the OL to boot.

I know the sack numbers are nice but I still put most of that on Mahomes. I've not been generally impressed by the amount of time he's had to throw, especially considering the fact that teams really can't gamble too often getting after him when there are that many guys in the pattern that can hurt them.

The Pats were getting pressure with 3 on fair occasions last week. That's not great, Bob.
Their "Bring the house" blitz was something to behold, though.
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That's a testament to Mahomes ability. Our OL is not great. Mahomes rolls out a lot to make plays. Running for his life way too much.
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That's a testament to Mahomes ability. Our OL is not great. Mahomes rolls out a lot to make plays. Running for his life way too much.
And excelling with every step. Shit, that's his bread and butter. I'd get Mahomes a defense before going all-in on replacement fatties.
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