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Old 04-28-2023, 06:41 PM  
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Old 11-27-2023, 12:39 PM   #1771
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I can see Veach tagging Sneed and letting CJ95 hit the market with intention to try to bring him back at market price if it makes sense to them.
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Old 11-27-2023, 12:41 PM   #1772
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Have you ever heard of Frank Clark?
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And no where near as valuable then as CJ is now. Be will fetch a late 1st or equivalent to.
Third contract, 30 years old. He's still an elite player, but teams ain't trading a first and paying him what he wants.
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Old 11-27-2023, 12:45 PM   #1773
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By your logic, why should we pay him what nobody else will?
You kind of have a point there.
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Old 11-27-2023, 12:46 PM   #1774
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Guys.....if Jones wants the money everyone seems to think he does, no one is trading a first and paying him that.
I really doubt it.
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Old 11-27-2023, 12:55 PM   #1775
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And no where near as valuable then as CJ is now. Be will fetch a late 1st or equivalent to.
Frank was an edge rusher, and well thought of, at the time and only 26. Jones is 30, and while good,is at his peak when looking at most DT producition over age 31. Can Jones continue to be good, sure, but I don't see the Chiefs taking the risk. We may not even tag him, but use that on Sneed, as his asking price may only fetch a 2nd round, and we would get a 3rd round comp if he signs elsewhere. We can hope there is a dumb franchise out there who will give us a 1st, but probably not. The best case would be for Chris to want to remain a Chief and get a fair contract for both parties. It will be an interesting off season for sure.
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Old 11-27-2023, 12:59 PM   #1776
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I can see Veach tagging Sneed and letting CJ95 hit the market with intention to try to bring him back at market price if it makes sense to them.
If he hits FA and teams don't have to both give up a pick and also pay him, I would be very surprised to see KC win the bidding war.

Just think KC is tight enough against the cap that Veach won't commit that much salary cap space for as many years as some other team with a better cap situation.
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Old 11-27-2023, 01:02 PM   #1777
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How does this dude’s skill set translate to the intermediate and downfield game?

He’s making a killing in the short game but are his odds of developing a full route tree good or nah?
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Old 11-27-2023, 01:05 PM   #1778
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Third contract, 30 years old. He's still an elite player, but teams ain't trading a first and paying him what he wants.
He's a stud pass rushing DT with a few good years left. Those guys are rare. DE's on the other hand are all over the place. We will get a decent haul Maybe a 2nd and 3rd.
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Old 11-27-2023, 01:07 PM   #1779
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I don't think I'd actually move up for one to be honest. The value difference between those guys and the guys taken later are there but don't think it's worth the amount to go up and get one.

I'd love for the Saints to want to blow it up and trade us Olave though.
I'm not in favor of giving up what it would take to get into the top ten or whatever for an almost sure thing WR.

As was just pointed out, there are values like the DK Metcalfs, etc to be had.

But it's not just Veach. Plenty of GMs end up with the equivalent of Hardman or Skyy with second round WRs. Just because there are values there are plenty of JAGs, MEHs, and busts for all teams.

It's easy to only get focused on other teams successes.
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By your logic, why should we pay him what nobody else will?
By your logic, why would anyone want to trade for him?
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If he hits the market, unencumbered, he's gonna get paid what he wants.

If someone has to give up a draft pick AND pay him, the pick isn't gonna be as high.
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He's a stud pass rushing DT with a few good years left. Those guys are rare. DE's on the other hand are all over the place. We will get a decent haul Maybe a 2nd and 3rd.
I agree.

We should pay him and keep him.
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So where do we see rashee project? Do we think he can be an outside option or is he best suited for the slot. I think it might be the latter which for now you can primary option as a “juju option.”
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Old 11-27-2023, 01:21 PM   #1785
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So where do we see rashee project? Do we think he can be an outside option or is he best suited for the slot. I think it might be the latter which for now you can primary option as a “juju option.”
I think we will see him move outside more.
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