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Old 04-28-2022, 09:16 PM  
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Old 11-15-2022, 06:16 PM   #1756
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Nah, not really. JAG is the likes of kaindoh or KPass. Brandon Speaks.

George is already well past that level.
He's right there with Kpassagnon/Allen Bailey blocked passes and almost getting there
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Old 11-15-2022, 06:41 PM   #1757
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Lol, autocorrect strikes again. Any time I try to type B and R together it decides to go with Brandon.

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Old 11-15-2022, 08:12 PM   #1758
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He's right there with Kpassagnon/Allen Bailey blocked passes and almost getting there
Bro. Stop!
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He's right there with Kpassagnon/Allen Bailey blocked passes and almost getting there
Bailey played 102 games for the Chiefs and had 6 batted passes.

Karlaftis has played 9 games for the Chiefs and has 5 batted passes.

Excellent comp there on your part.
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:32 PM   #1760
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Bro. Stop!

Why? He's a roleplayer at best, he can't outmuscle most Tackles but doesn't get blown off necessarily. He has a very average 10 yard burst Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, Allen, Carr all outran him to have decent gain or got the pass off for a completion during most of his pressures. If Karlaftis was a 4th round pick, he'd be a pleasant surprise but as a 1st round pick who suppose to help the passrush George's been disappointing.
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:33 PM   #1761
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Bailey played 102 games for the Chiefs and had 6 batted passes.

Karlaftis has played 9 games for the Chiefs and has 5 batted passes.

Excellent comp there on your part.
Numbers are hard, and they take time to look up.

Why do that when I can just blurt out whatever comes to mind?
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:33 PM   #1762
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Bailey played 102 games for the Chiefs and had 6 batted passes.

Karlaftis has played 9 games for the Chiefs and has 5 batted passes.

Excellent comp there on your part.
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Does anyone know if a sack also counts as a pressure? I assume it does.
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Why? He's a roleplayer at best, he can't outmuscle most Tackles but doesn't get blown off necessarily. He has a very average 10 yard burst Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, Allen, Carr all outran him to have decent gain or got the pass off for a completion during most of his pressures. If Karlaftis was a 4th round pick, he'd be a pleasant surprise but as a 1st round pick who suppose to help the passrush George's been disappointing.
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Does anyone know if a sack also counts as a pressure? I assume it does.
Yes.

Hurries + Hits + Sacks

The events don't 'compound' - a sack doesn't count as a sack, hit and hurry. Each play is one event.

So while 23 hurries, 4 hits and 1 sack is pretty much the least useful way to possible to rack up 28 pressures, that's still a shitload of pressures and a positive sign.

But as I said (in this thread, I believe), some of those hurries in particular are just kinda stupid. Giving a guy a hurry for coming through on a screen pass when that was the entire point of the exercise is wonky as hell.
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Does anyone know if a sack also counts as a pressure? I assume it does.
Can't believe I found this. This is the definition I was referred to way back in the day when I was an assoc. editor for the Sporting News:

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"A Quarterback Sack is awarded to a defender whenever the Quarterback is in possession of the ball behind the LOS and is:

Tackled for a loss of yards, or
Forced out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage to avoid imminent contact, or
Forced to fumble the football irrespective of where the ball goes thereafter. For example, a defender who creates this “strip sack” and the ball is then propelled across the LOS by being batted or kicked, will still receive credit for a QB Sack.
Note: It is possible for the Quarterback to be sacked for a loss of zero (0) yards. However, the ball when re-spotted after the play must clearly have been moved back by at least half the length of the ball as ordinarily observed by the stats crew. The yards lost by Team A in any of the above situations shall be charged as a Team Loss.


A Quarterback Pressure is awarded to a defender who either forces the QB to move off his initial drop back point to avoid contact, contacts the QB in the act of throwing or has the QB in his grasp at the time an Intentional Grounding penalty is called. Only one QB Pressure per play may be awarded to the defense."

This definition appears to indicate that a sack cannot be counted as a QB pressure. It's an "either/or," type of situation.
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