Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)

[TLO]

Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Mahomes has a higher yards per completion. Garoppolo has a slightly higher (1.2 percent) YPA.

And Ryan Tannehill has a higher YPA than either of them, by a huge margin (15 percent).

QBs that pass off a lot of play action and against boxes stacked to defend the run typically will have a higher YPA and YPC completion because they’re typically throwing in advantageous situations.

I think the game plan the Chiefs opened with against the Titans is telling; they came out prepared for the PA shots and didn’t give Tennessee a stacked box to try and exploit early.

The Titans made some nice plays on shorter routes to move the ball on their first 3 drives, but they never landed that demoralizing quick-strike bomb like they did early against the Ravens and Pats.

Shanahan’s creativity is worrisome. I’m sure he’ll look for creative ways to get some of those chunk pass plays early, with your FB or Kittle.

Kansas City has used Sherman at times like the 49ers use Juschek in the pas game, so the concept shouldn’t catch the Chiefs with their pants down. Still, it’s scary.

Good analysis.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by A8bil

First, fan and season ticket holder since the early 70s. I suspect I've watched multiples of the number of games you have.



Second, I think you're missing the context of my post. I was only addressing why JG threw so few passes in the last 2 games and stated the obvious -- if they can't stop it, you keep doing it. Even pop warner coaches know that. GB and Minn couldn't stop SF's running game. That doesn't mean (and I didn't say) that KC can't stop the running game. I watched some game film and you guys seem to have stout run blockers in the middle of the line. How are they against zone blocking? Shanahan is more about the one cut against the flow running. Is your line solid in setting the edge?

The Titans run a zone scheme as well. They aren’t as creative or tricky as Shannahan, but their OL follow the same general principles. Almost all of Henry’s big runs this season came on one-cut zone runs where he caught a backside crease and powered through light contact into the open field.

Clark and Suggs have been excellent at setting and holding the edge. Clark will be lined up at LE most of the time now, with Suggs on board at RE.

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by Clyde Frog

That and going to jail for stabbing fellow fans to death.

Sadly, too true. Some of the fanbase was getting a bit dicey in the last few Candlestick years. Way too many fans were wasted before they even went into the stadium. You knew things were bad when it felt safer to go to a Raider game and sit in the black hole.

[MOARGore]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Not seeing the LB 10 yards in front of you isn’t “taking a risk”......it’s a stupid ****ing decision.

He was asked about that after the game and he said he saw the LB but didn't put enough air on the ball.

I think it was a dumb decision to try and squeeze it in. That's when the gunslinger attitude can get him in trouble.

He's not afraid to throw into tight coverage.

Shanahan also said it was a bad decision. Said they were in zone, and there were no routes to occupy the LB dropping, so he should've gone somewhere else with the football.

[FloridaMan88]

Demarcus Robinson is only Chiefs player who won't practice today. He's ill.

— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) January 22, 2020

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

The Titans run a zone scheme as well. They aren’t as creative or tricky as Shannahan, but their OL follow the same general principles. Almost all of Henry’s big runs this season came on one-cut zone runs where he caught a backside crease and powered through light contact into the open field.

Clark and Suggs have been excellent at setting and holding the edge. Clark will be lined up at LE most of the time now, with Suggs on board at RE.

I admittedly have not seen a lot of Titan games this year. I used to watch them a lot because my nephew coached at Oregon when Mariota played, but missed a good part of the season until Tannehill's run of success started to get more national notice. Henry seems to run a lot more between the tackles than the 49er runners do. But yes, he ran through a lot of light contact this year. Teams that have set the edge well on the 49ers have been more effective, but I will say that Mostert has been a real surprise. He seems to find running lanes where Coleman could not. His speed is almost Hill like and I think it catches defenses by surprise.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

The way this game is going to be won by the 9ers is by getting constant pressure with 4, successfully running the ball and limiting what Garrapolo has to do.

Special Teams, and generating turnovers in general will decide this thing

Pennel has been KC's most valuable addition to the run defense , Jesus it was like they resurrected the Chiefs D-Line circa 92-94.

[Tonka83]

Originally Posted by A8bil

The seat prices at Levi Stadium has weeded out a lot of hardcore fans, but they're still there.

You would think the 49ers would be able to finish that stadium if they charge so much for tickets.

[BangbangNinerGang]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Special Teams, and generating turnovers in general will decide this thing

Pennel has been KC's most valuable addition to the run defense , Jesus it was like they resurrected the Chiefs D-Line circa 92-94.

Interesting take; If you look back to the Saints game, they would take the ball out of the end-zone 5+ yards deep and would consistently get past the 25. They saw something lacking in kickoff coverage. Not many teams have tried that since that game, most just kneeling when in the end zone. This could play a factor.

[BangbangNinerGang]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Special Teams, and generating turnovers in general will decide this thing

Pennel has been KC's most valuable addition to the run defense , Jesus it was like they resurrected the Chiefs D-Line circa 92-94.

I also think the element of surprise will play a big factor, the Niners have not put much of anything on tape in the playoffs of the last few weeks of the season. Shanahan has a lot of tricks up his sleeve, expect it.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang

Interesting take; If you look back to the Saints game, they would take the ball out of the end-zone 5+ yards deep and would consistently get past the 25. They saw something lacking in kickoff coverage. Not many teams have tried that since that game, most just kneeling when in the end zone. This could play a factor.

Your defense had zero sacks in that game too.

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by Tonka83

You would think the 49ers would be able to finish that stadium if they charge so much for tickets.

What makes you think it is not finished? They're not going to do anything more, which unfortunately sucks as my seats are on the sunny side....and you bake in the later summer heat. They claim to be unable to erect any cover or shade because the stadium is in the path of the San Jose airport.

BTW, apart from the unbearable summer heat, the stadium is pretty nice, with large concourses, good views from most seats, nice concessions, good wifi access.

[anaheimkcfan]

If i only listen to the media slurping about this niners front four, I would assume the game is going to end up like SB50 .

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Your defense had zero sacks in that game too.

Truth be told, the 49ers' d-line is far more effective when Ford is healthy and playing. Ford missed a lot of games down the stretch. After 11/17, he didn't play until the first round of the playoffs.

[wachashi]

Here are the DVOA offensive efficiency numbers, last updated 12/30/2019, sorted by rushing offense. Surprisingly, KC is just behind SF in rushing efficiency during the regular season.

Tennessee had a stronger running attack than SF during the regular season, and the Chiefs just shut it down.



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