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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED
OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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10-08-2018, 11:55 AM | #17341 | |
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QBR is VASTLY superior to the standard rating system as far as judging a QB's performance. Things like 3rd down and red zone performance matter. |
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10-08-2018, 11:57 AM | #17342 | |
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Remember he fumbled right after Mahomes first interception. While fumbles aren't a passing stat, they sure as hell are related to QB performance. It's the reason people look at the passing stats of a guy like Cousins and wonder 'Why doesn't he win more?" Because he fumbles all the damn time. |
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10-08-2018, 12:02 PM | #17343 | |
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10-08-2018, 12:39 PM | #17344 | |
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I mean the scoreboard says this game was a blowout but this game felt a shitload closer than the Chargers and Niners game. Frankly, the Steelers game seemed far more dominant as well. If the Jags come back here in January, Bortles probably isn't throwing 3 interceptions in the end zone (with the 4th being a pick six on a screen). Marrone probably isn't throwing twice at 3rd and 2 after running the ball all the way down inside the 5. There were a half dozen different potential turning points in that game and they ALL went KC's way. If we face them again, Mahomes needs to be better than he was yesterday. He didn't play poorly. He made some huge plays that we badly needed at the time. The good outweighed the bad by a fair amount. But I'm hopeful that he is able to play better against them should we face them again because I'm pretty sure we'll need him to.
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10-08-2018, 12:43 PM | #17345 | |
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I mean, it wasn't bad. He did what he should have. On the second pick, you've gotta just throw it away and punt. I know that's not him, but he's gotta figure that out. The first one just got away. That shit's gonna happen. Some of the redzone stuff was probably out of his hands, but you've gotta punch it in down there. But that's what you're gonna get with a first year starter. It wasn't a bad game and if that's the worst game were gonna get, that's not shabby. |
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10-08-2018, 12:51 PM | #17347 |
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Darnold doesn't have Andy getting guys open schematically or the actual weapons Pat has.
It's ok to hold him to a higher standard here fellas. |
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Mahomes had a 72 QBR in that game. Brady averaged 73 last year and won MVP. This was arguably the best defense in the league. I would say it’s fair to give those guys credit. 72 QBR against those guys is pretty solid.
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10-08-2018, 12:55 PM | #17349 | |
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Pat should have carved them up more yesterday. He had 3 or 4 throws he missed on that if he hits, it's 42-7 |
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10-08-2018, 12:56 PM | #17350 | |
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I think those drives were as impressive as anything we've seen from him to date. But I think you're not going to win post-season games with fieldgoals and while I respect the hell out of his ability to flip the field and put points on the board, if we're going to be fair we need to acknowledge that in the post-season we're gonna want him to have a better success rate when he gets down there. 2 chip shot field goals and a 3rd that really should have been a chip shot but/for Mahomes taking a sack that made that one harder than it needed to be. I agree - he'll play better. My point is that this team is built around HIM and when the rubber hits the road, we'll need him to be great to have great outcomes in the post-season. Might be an unfair expectation to put on the kid, but it is what it is.
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In the redzone, he needs to let it rip more than waiting. Windows are really small down there, can't hold the ball.
I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he did make a few good throws down there that were dropped or they'd have been 7. |
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On the subject of drops, that needs to be tightened up. Young QB needs those guys to do their job. When the ball is there, catch it. |
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