Chiefs Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect - Page 114

RunKC · 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

duncan_idaho · 02-23-2025, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

He did a great job against Sweat...*sigh* if we only had him in the SB

That tape shows a good reason why you can potentially not worry as much about arm length.

When you have 32-33" arms, it can be a problem to handle speed to power and long arm moves. But when you are also 6-7/330 on top of that, you have enough size and weight to re-anchor against those moves.

Sweat and the Eagles didn't do anything different to Jackson than they were doing to Thuney... but it didn't work against Jackson. He wasn't instantly blow into his QBs lap on every single play.

RunKC · 02-23-2025, 12:10 PM

I ****ing hate that that fat piece of Shit Orlando Brown Jr ****ed us over and then signed for cheap with the Bengals.

Would have been tolerable for only $16 million APY.

GordonGekko · 02-23-2025, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

He did a great job against Sweat...*sigh* if we only had him in the SB

Would have been a totally different Superbowl if we had this guy, refreshing to see the Eagles DE get it sent back to him a bit. I love Thuney but he is a LG for a reason. With this type of LT play Mahomes has 40+ TD's and like 6 int's

Coochie liquor · 02-23-2025, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I ****ing hate that that fat piece of Shit Orlando Brown Jr ****ed us over and then signed for cheap with the Bengals.

Would have been tolerable for only $16 million APY.

Didn’t he have one of the worst OL rankings last season? He’s not worth that imo.

Chris Meck · 02-23-2025, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Didn’t he have one of the worst OL rankings last season? He’s not worth that imo.

yeah.

He's not good enough, but he's still better than we had all year.

Chris Meck · 02-23-2025, 12:38 PM

Here's what I think, if anyone is interested.

I assume a Mahomes restructure at the least is the plan.

Plan A: If you can sign Jackson for sub $20m per for like a 4 year deal, you go ahead and do it. Weight the cap hits to '26 and later to stagger with a likely Thuney retirement/ Taylor cut. I think Morris is the more natural fit at RG, he's got the heavy legs to be a mauler in the phone booth. Kingsley you groom as swing tackle this year and hopefully take over for Taylor at RT in '26.

Plan B: If you think he can return to form, you re-sign Humphries as your stop-gap and compete with Kingsley for a full off-season. But if a Conerly falls to #31 you'd better grab him. If this all happens, you again move Morris to RG.

I don't think Stanley or Matthews hit the market. I don't think Cam Robinson is a guy I want to pay big bucks to. So I think these are the best risk/reward options.

Dunerdr · 02-23-2025, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I ****ing hate that that fat piece of Shit Orlando Brown Jr ****ed us over and then signed for cheap with the Bengals.

Would have been tolerable for only $16 million APY.

We offered more and he played himself. Got exactly what he wanted. I do t hate him lol. Right now I’d like to have him back to develop Kingsley behind if we’re being honest.

kccrow · 02-23-2025, 01:54 PM

LT Pressure % (Pressures/Pass Block Snaps)

0<4% - T. Wirfs, L. Tunsil, G. Bolles, T. Armstead, J. Mailata, D. Dawkins
4<5% - R. Slater, W. Little, B. Raimann, C. Darrisaw, A. Jackson, C. Lucas, T. Williams, P. Johnson Jr, O. Brown Jr, J. Matthews
5<6% - K. Miller, C. Edoga, B. Jones, T. Smith, T. Guyton, T. Fuaga
6<7% - R. Stanley, B. Coleman, A. Thomas, O. Fashanu, J. Moore, T. Decker, C. Cross, J. Wills, V. Lowe, I. Ekwonu, D. Moore Jr
7%+ - J. Latham, W. Morris, C. Robinson, L. Borom, J. Hudson III, J. Noteboom

LT Negative Play % (Pressures + Penalties/Total Snaps)

0<4% - T. Wirfs, T. Armstead, J. Mailata, B. Raimann, R. Slater, C. Lucas, A. Jackson, W. Little, G. Bolles, T. Williams, J. Matthews, P. Johnson Jr, D. Dawkins, J. Moore, L. Tunsil, C. Darrisaw, T. Decker, C. Edoga
4<5% - R. Walker, D. Moore Jr, K. Miller, O. Brown Jr, R. Stanley, A. Thomas, B. Coleman, T. Fuaga, B. Jones, T. Smith
5<6% - C. Cross, J. Latham, I. Ekwonu, O. Fashanu, V. Lowe
6<7% - W. Morris, C. Robinson, T. Guyton
7%+ - J. Wills Jr, L. Borom, J. Hudson III, J. Noteboom

Looking at last year's stats, go after Alaric Jackson if he hits FA. If not, maybe bring in competition in Jaylon Moore but focus on the draft.

Based on injury history and this performance, Ronnie Stanley is playing with fire. The rest basically aren't worth it at all.

If you can trade for Armstead, he's stellar. Doubt it's a possibility.

**Easy 6** · 02-23-2025, 02:22 PM

Yeah man those reps against the Eagles have me all aboard the Jackson train

**RealSNR** · 02-23-2025, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

We offered more and he played himself. Got exactly what he wanted. I do t hate him lol. Right now I’d like to have him back to develop Kingsley behind if we’re being honest.

Just because he got ****ed doesn't mean his idiocy has given this franchise a giant ass headache the past two seasons.

I don't know if his presence would have been all we needed to swing the scales back in our favor in the SB, but I doubt it's as much of a massacre as it ended up being.

ChiefsHawk · 02-23-2025, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

That tape shows a good reason why you can potentially not worry as much about arm length.

When you have 32-33" arms, it can be a problem to handle speed to power and long arm moves. But when you are also 6-7/330 on top of that, you have enough size and weight to re-anchor against those moves.

Sweat and the Eagles didn't do anything different to Jackson than they were doing to Thuney... but it didn't work against Jackson. He wasn't instantly blow into his QBs lap on every single play.

Jacobs said in that same thread theres a lot of misinformation about his arm length.

Dunerdr · 02-23-2025, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk

Jacobs said in that same thread theres a lot of misinformation about his arm length.

What I found was 31.5” arms. What’s the real deal?

ChiefsHawk · 02-23-2025, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

What I found was 31.5” arms. What’s the real deal?

Saw 33 7/8

**Easy 6** · 02-23-2025, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

What I found was 31.5” arms. What’s the real deal?

Well heres the deal, I got bad news and good news

Just found out he has the same arm length as Gary Coleman, but the good news is he has apparently found a workaround for it

ChiefsHawk · 02-23-2025, 06:04 PM

There were conflicting numbers. The NFL website has listed below. The combine was cancelled in 2021, so numbers were done at Pro Days of the school. There is another number out there. So I guess it is somewhere in between. pic.twitter.com/9AgiPiM8Md
— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) February 22, 2025

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02-23-2025, 12:38 PM	#1701
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1105090	Here's what I think, if anyone is interested. I assume a Mahomes restructure at the least is the plan. Plan A: If you can sign Jackson for sub $20m per for like a 4 year deal, you go ahead and do it. Weight the cap hits to '26 and later to stagger with a likely Thuney retirement/ Taylor cut. I think Morris is the more natural fit at RG, he's got the heavy legs to be a mauler in the phone booth. Kingsley you groom as swing tackle this year and hopefully take over for Taylor at RT in '26. Plan B: If you think he can return to form, you re-sign Humphries as your stop-gap and compete with Kingsley for a full off-season. But if a Conerly falls to #31 you'd better grab him. If this all happens, you again move Morris to RG. I don't think Stanley or Matthews hit the market. I don't think Cam Robinson is a guy I want to pay big bucks to. So I think these are the best risk/reward options.
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02-23-2025, 01:54 PM	#1703
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1020000	LT Pressure % (Pressures/Pass Block Snaps) 0<4% - T. Wirfs, L. Tunsil, G. Bolles, T. Armstead, J. Mailata, D. Dawkins 4<5% - R. Slater, W. Little, B. Raimann, C. Darrisaw, A. Jackson, C. Lucas, T. Williams, P. Johnson Jr, O. Brown Jr, J. Matthews 5<6% - K. Miller, C. Edoga, B. Jones, T. Smith, T. Guyton, T. Fuaga 6<7% - R. Stanley, B. Coleman, A. Thomas, O. Fashanu, J. Moore, T. Decker, C. Cross, J. Wills, V. Lowe, I. Ekwonu, D. Moore Jr 7%+ - J. Latham, W. Morris, C. Robinson, L. Borom, J. Hudson III, J. Noteboom LT Negative Play % (Pressures + Penalties/Total Snaps) 0<4% - T. Wirfs, T. Armstead, J. Mailata, B. Raimann, R. Slater, C. Lucas, A. Jackson, W. Little, G. Bolles, T. Williams, J. Matthews, P. Johnson Jr, D. Dawkins, J. Moore, L. Tunsil, C. Darrisaw, T. Decker, C. Edoga 4<5% - R. Walker, D. Moore Jr, K. Miller, O. Brown Jr, R. Stanley, A. Thomas, B. Coleman, T. Fuaga, B. Jones, T. Smith 5<6% - C. Cross, J. Latham, I. Ekwonu, O. Fashanu, V. Lowe 6<7% - W. Morris, C. Robinson, T. Guyton 7%+ - J. Wills Jr, L. Borom, J. Hudson III, J. Noteboom Looking at last year's stats, go after Alaric Jackson if he hits FA. If not, maybe bring in competition in Jaylon Moore but focus on the draft. Based on injury history and this performance, Ronnie Stanley is playing with fire. The rest basically aren't worth it at all. If you can trade for Armstead, he's stellar. Doubt it's a possibility.
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02-23-2025, 02:22 PM	#1704
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $87775	Yeah man those reps against the Eagles have me all aboard the Jackson train
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02-23-2025, 06:04 PM	#1710
ChiefsHawk Starter Join Date: Jul 2011 Casino cash: $-626225	There were conflicting numbers. The NFL website has listed below. The combine was cancelled in 2021, so numbers were done at Pro Days of the school. There is another number out there. So I guess it is somewhere in between. pic.twitter.com/9AgiPiM8Md — Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) February 22, 2025 Last edited by ChiefsHawk; 02-23-2025 at 09:12 PM.. Reason: link
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